Origin of the Porkpie

[PVTJethro]

I've tried the search engine on this and did not find anything. I know this style of hat has been discussed many times here, but i've wondered lately just when it came into existence. I see it as a modern hat maybe appearing in the 1850's sometime but would like a refference and some feedback too. Thanks for your responses. With regards,Clifford Earl Hyde

[roundshot]

Caps of this style were in use by Prussian Landwehr forces at Waterloo
(1815), and also by some Russians in earlier Napoleonic campaigns.
http://web2.airmail.net/napoleon/Prussian_army.htm

[PVTJethro]

Thank you Bob,but i mean the Porkpie felt hat, i.e.,the little small brimmed hats with ribbon trim. Clifford Earl Hyde

[Jim Mayo]

Try a google search. You will find pictures of various pork pies and an article that says the hat was named because it resembled the pie. Pretty interesting. Never had one of the pies but they sounded good.

[Hank Trent]

Also, a google books search will bring up period references to it being a common female style in the era as well, and a couple things which tie it to matador hats(?). Check it spelled both "porkpie" and "pork pie."

Hank Trent
hanktrent@voyager.net

[PVTJethro]

Thanks Fellas, I'll try those. Regards,Clifford Earl Hyde