View Full Version : Three-Tined Fork With Metal Handle -- Is It Period?
VMI88
12-13-2007, 08:54 AM
I ran across the fork pictured below and was wondering if it was correct for our period. I've searched this forum and the web in general with no luck.
The three tines of course are an early feature, but the 1860's forks I've seen generally have a bone or wooden handle. The handle -- disregarding the tines -- looks a lot like WWI-era mess gear. Can anyone shed any light on this?
Stonewall_Greyfox
12-13-2007, 09:35 AM
Bill,
I haven't seen this variation of fork documented to American Civil War (ACW) use, but did find a few other variations of knife and fork sets datable to the period.
The attached image depicts a knife and two-tined fork, attributed to Union Col. John S. Crockerof the 93rd NY Vol. during his time as a prisoner in Richmond City's Libby Prison. These pieces reside in the collection of the Smithsonian Institute, and the picture was pulled from their website.
Note: This is an older style of Silver-ware, and I believe this same style to have been used in the 18th c. as well as 19th c.
Paul B.
Citizen_Soldier
12-13-2007, 09:41 AM
Greetings,
I'm somewhat unfamiliar with this particular pattern of fork but do know of an all metal civilian four tine fork that is identified with solid documentation as being picked up on the battlefield of Richmond, Kentucky by a participant in the original battle while looking for wounded.
Perhaps a local university with an archeology program may have period catalogs from the nineteenth century or other material that could help you identify the particular piece you have.
Darrek Orwig
BrownBlanketMess
12-13-2007, 04:39 PM
Darrek,
Looks to be the standard Indian War period Model 1874 issue fork.
Steve LaBarre
Cornfed Comrades
WIG
IMHO, carrying a fork is a bit pointless anyway. Why? There is nothing you can do with a fork that you can't do with the other two utensils you should carry: A nice fat spoon and a pocket-knife.
If you lose the spoon, you can eat with your fingers. If you lose the knife, you are screwed, but can borrow one. If you lose a fork, would you notice?
Fork also tend to poke holes in things, add weight, hurt when you roll over on them in the middle of the night.
But, I am a savage, so you may have a different view.
Rob Willis
VMI Confederate 07
12-13-2007, 06:22 PM
What exactly does that have to do with the original question?
Respectfully,
VMI88
12-13-2007, 06:42 PM
Looks to be the standard Indian War period Model 1874 issue fork.
You are correct -- I found a photo on the web using your information! I bought the fork because it was cheap and I figured it might be military. Even if it won't do for our period it will fit in nicely with my other collecting interests! Thanks to all for the information.
What exactly does that have to do with the original question?
Respectfully,
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Byron Faidley
Because this is a forum dedicated to the recreation of the American Civil War soldier by reenactors.
The original post suggested to me that the fellow wanted to add the fork to his field impression. I posted in response.
Sorry to have crossed your wires.
Rob Willis
Columbia Rifles
Stonewall_Greyfox
12-13-2007, 08:35 PM
Because this is a forum dedicated to the recreation of the American Civil War soldier by reenactors.
The original post suggested to me that the fellow wanted to add the fork to his field impression. I posted in response.
Sorry to have crossed your wires.
Rob Willis
Columbia Rifles
So the thousands of forks dug in ACW era camps means that we just happen to be finding the exceptions....?:confused_
I believe Bill's question was as to whether the fork was ACW era or not...
Since we have apparantly confirmed that it is not ACW era, I'm afraid you'll have to find another period fork Bill...:wink_smil
When being very active in backpacking a few years ago I remember the same philosophy of "cutting weight" and being minimalistic. Personally I still carried a small lexan fork, spoon in addition to my pocket knife...no I never cut my toothbrush in half...
Paul B.
VMI88
12-14-2007, 12:07 PM
In the interest of full disclosure, I do incorporate a fork into my impression. I find it handy for picking up hot food, and the weight is negligible.
sgt-phil
01-10-2008, 03:28 PM
Hi, y'all.
I have the Warman's collectibles II book at home, and there's a couple of nice examples of 2- and 3-tined forks in there, some dug and some non-dug, are these people wrong then by saying they're ACW-artifacts?
Regards, Philippe T Cuvelier.
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