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Vicksburg Dave
04-08-2008, 01:27 AM
Greetings Pards,
In the spirit of our ongoing series of threads on improving artillery portrayals, why don't we discuss some of the real life problems we have encountered.


Here's one that stumped me last summer.

Last summer we were preparing to fire for a crowd of visitors when my number 4 whiplashed the primer out of the vent. Of course I was annoyed, and flashed him a dirty look as we started over from Ready. With the command of Fire, he did it again. This time I became concerned, for that never happens with my crew. He had done everything properly. He hooked the friction primer from the bottom so as not to whip the hook out of the loop, and there was no excess arm movement as he pulled the lanyard, but yet it happened again. By this time the poor #4 was so embarrassed he could hardly function. His father was watching and the rest of the crew was growing restless. We finally got the friction primer to stay in the gun, but I could not figure out what went wrong since all of our early firings had went well.

I knew our vent was in need of replacement, but did not know that some of the symptoms a worn vent would exhibit could be variable. As it turns out, the width of the vent, the height of the #4 man, and the frequency of whiplashed primers are all proportional. I had used shorter fellows for #4 for most of the summer and never had a problem, but on that day, I put one of my tallest crew members in on #4. His height, combined with the wear on the vent increased the angle of the pull on the primer to its tipping point. Go figure?

Got any comparable stories that may save some of us from embarrassing headscratching moments? Share them!


FYI, we use Boom Boom Sieglein's primers, which have provided us with superior results.

Mbond057
04-08-2008, 02:07 AM
Here are a few sources to purchase friction primers:

BACK CREEK GUN SHOP, INC. from Winchester, VA.
http://blackpowderva.com/

Cannon LTD’s
http://www.cannonltd.com/implements.htm

Phil "Boom Boom" Sieglein
5026 Mile Stretch Dr.
Holiday, FL 34690
Phone between 9 a.m. - 3 p.m. EST (727) 934-4330

Yankem & Hyde Friction Primers
Jason Clagg
Rt. 2 Box 322
Ona, W.Va. 25545
e-mail: ordsgt jclagg@aol.com
Phone After 4:00 P.M. EST. (304) 762-2569

I have bought and used primers from each one of these sources and I haven’t had any problems with shipments or bad products.

artillerybuff
04-08-2008, 09:45 AM
Doesn't sound like a primer problem. I have seen that happen before. In one case it was with a 12 Pdr. Field Howitzer with the vent angled back instead of straight in (as were the originals) and if No. 4 stood too far back it had a tendency to pop the primers out, so it was important on that piece to stand as perpendicular to the piece as possible, basically with the lanyard cord just behind the wheel. It is also important to take the slack out and pull (not jerk or whip) with a smooth downward motion behind your leg. This keeps the primer in and prevents the lanyard from striking you in the face or body.

I also noticed that reproduction primers are only 1.75" long. We make ours 2" which seems to help them stay in better as well.

BTW, you may want to replace that vent. Most events will not allow an oversized vent, nor one that is corroded inside as they are not safe.

Be well~ Anthony Variz

Vicksburg Dave
04-08-2008, 09:59 AM
We replaced the vent and the problem was solved. :)

sedlakchristopher
04-09-2008, 12:20 AM
Gents,

As an aside to the primers issue:

Sue Miller-Eichenger of Cannon Ltd. passed away this week.
She was in a fierce battle with cancer.

I talked to Paul Miller, her ex-husband a few weeks ago and said she was bad and then found out from Battery F, 1st PA Light that she did indeed pass away on Sunday.
She was a wonderful lady to deal with and always loved taking my large checks :)

Paul assures me the business will go on and that he had 1600 primers stocked and ready to go.

A sad loss indeed.

Their business address from their website if you'd like to send a card:

CANNON LTD.
24676 Brimstone Road
Coolville, OH 45723




Chris Sedlak

artillerybuff
04-09-2008, 09:04 AM
Thank you very much for that update Chris. Yes she was a very nice and talented lady indeed; will miss talking to her.


Anthony Variz