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Stonewall_Greyfox
05-12-2008, 02:14 PM
Gentlemen,

While I understand that mainstream threads are not allowed here on the AC, I feel this has a place...as the VMI CWRT will be in presence at the event...is a company sized C/P/H group of young men, continually striving to improve the Civil War Era image of the Virginia Military Institute cadet...and of course has a strong focus on the participation of the cadets from the VMI in the battle of New Market.

If your'e between the ages of 16 and 25, and have an interest in portraying a VMI Cadet at the Battle of New Market...the following should serve as "guidelines" towards this impression:

Note: Items of each sub-category are listed in order of preference.

Headware:

Kepi/Low-Crowned Military Cap: Black "Navy-Blue"
McDowell Brim Forage Cap: Black "Navy-Blue"
Kepi/Low-Crowned Military Cap: Of color other than Black "Navy-Blue"

Waterproof Cap Cover: Numerous images show the use of a black waterproof cap cover...and documentation suggests that this was the only rain-gear the cadets had until the 1880's when they recieved waterproof raincapes.

No ornamentation of headware.

Jacket:

VMI Cadet Jacket: 6-piece body 5-9 button front, of the following materials; broadcloth, cassimere, jeans cloth. Colors will vary between cadet-grey, oxford brown, and sheep's grey...with a preference towards cadet-grey.

NC Jacket: ?

Richmond Depot III: 6-piece body, Blue-Grey English Kersey

Trousers:

Examination of original trousers and photographic evidence suggest a slight variation in trousers. Trousers should be high waisted, may/may not have pockets...trousers leg may have the following features: no trim, integral welted seam of black wool, woolen tape (ranging from 1.25-1.5 inches). If possible, please try to match the trouser fabric to that of the jacket.

Vest:

Vest may be of civilian or military patterns...if using a military vest, try to match the fabric of the jacket/trousers.

Shirt: An examination of the Institute regulations and the wartime cadet images, specify and exclusively show the use of white shirts...at this point not enough research has been completed to define a particular cut/pattern of the shirt, but please try to wear a white shirt if possible. Note: In Cadet Wise's reminiscent article for The Century Magazine, he notes wearing a cravat while on the march from New Market...it's possible these may have actually been worn into battle by some of the cadets...an examination of images through the archives shows the styles worn at the time....there should be no big and gaudy bows, but rather subtle ties, ranging from 1/2 to 1.5 inches in width.

Shoes: Military Shoes, should be blackened

Waist Belt: Black Waistbelt, with "Harness" buckle...typically interpreted to be a roller buckle. Belt width may vary 1.25-2.25 inches (internal dimension)

Cap Pouch:

Shield Front Cap Pouch (Black)
Other variation Cap Pouch

Bayonet Scabbard:

Gaylord Style Bayonet Scabbard, with Brass "Springfield" tip. (Black)
Other variation Scabbard

Cartridge Box:

0.58 cal cartridge box, with tins. Should have belt loops on back.
Other Variation Cartridge Box

Note: All accoutrements to be worn on waistbelt only (no use of box-belts "slings").

Canteen: Wooden "Gardner" style canteen.

Rifle/Musket:

M1854 Austrian Lorenze Rifle
M1851 Cadet Musket
M1861 Springfield Rifle-Musket
P1853 British Enfield Rifle-Musket

Drill Manual: Rifle and Light Infantry Tactics; for the exercise and maneuvers of troops when acting as light infantry or riflemen. Prepared under the direction of the War Department, by Brevet Lieut.-Col. W.J. Hardee (Richmond, Va.: J.W. Randolph, 1861). Note: this is a printing of the 1855 manual, not revised.

Buttons: If one has access to correct VMI buttons (cast, or small stamped variety, please use these for the jackets and caps)

Note: No knapsacks, blanket rolls, or haversacks should be worn into the battle. Documentation exists and is available through reading information contained in the VMI Archives, as well as several books that explicitly state that the cadets stripped down for battle, removing blanket rolls, haversacks, etc. at the base of Shirley's Hill (present site of 7-11).

Note: These are intended to be guidelines only, and are not rules for participation in the event.

The VMI CWRT will be attending this event and conducting a Living History throughout the weekend camped around the Bushong Farmhouse. If you are interested in participating in the VMI Cadet Impression, can meet a good portion of these guidelines, and attend the Saturday drill session (led by VMI Cadets), please feel free to contact me via PM or email: paulboulden[at]hotmail.com. The senior cadets of the Virginia Military Institute will be travelling through the CS Camps Friday evening and Saturday morning in search of recruits.

Note: Contrary to popular opinion, the Cadets were not wearing "frock-coats" at the battle, nor coatees (coat with tails and 44 brass buttons~abandoned in Spring of 1861), nor white trousers. For a good idea of what the cadets were wearing into battle take a look in the Hall of Valor museum at the uniform of Francis L. Smith, and the Rifle & Accoutrements of Charles Read.

Additional Information May be found through the VMI Archives: http://www.vmi.edu/archives.aspx?id=..._72_0_3719_ 8

If you have any questions about these guidelines or questions of topics not discussed here...please do not hesitate to ask via; post, PM or email.

Below you should find several images of New Market cadets. Included in this batch of 10 images are 4 of the "10" New Market Cadets who ultimately lost their lives as results of wounds recieved during the May 15th Battle of New Market.

Top Row: C. Weston, J.B. Stanard, J.E. Wood, W.O. Harris, Sgt. W.H. Cabell
Bottom Row: T.G. Jefferson (of kin to president Thomas Jefferson), J.B. Gray, W.H. McDowell, A.W. Overton, A. Pizzini

Died on the field of Honor:

Killed in Battle or immediately following: J.B. Stanard, W.H. Cabell, T.G. Jefferson, W.H. McDowell, C.G. Crocket, H.J. Jones

Died following the Battle as a result of wounds recieved: Cpl. S.F. Atwill, A.C. Hartsfield, L.C. Haynes, J.C. Wheelright

Paul B.

Stonewall_Greyfox
05-12-2008, 04:09 PM
For those individuals intending to portray "Subs" or Officers of the VMI, the following guidelines may help with your impressions:

Headware:

Kepi/Low-Crowned Military Cap: Preference to cap of cadet-grey color with appropriate bullion braid. Caps of natural/sheep's grey color may also be acceptable. If possible cap should match coat in color.

Slouch: Well constructed/Well cared for slouch...as the "Subs" were instructors at the Institute, their uniforms were not subjected to the wearing campaign of the typical soldier.

Coat:

Frock-coat: While there are exceptions to the wartime appearance of much of the military schools throughout the south; VMI superintendant Francis H. Smith, did his best to keep the cadets and instructors uniformed. Importing hundreds of yds. of cloth, linen, buttons, pickled beef from England annually throughout the war.

Some variation existed in the uniform of the cadets, and surely the professors, however numerous images and documentation about the battle suggests that the "Subs" were wearing frock coats. Preference should be towards double breasted cadet-grey broadcloth frock coats...with other options being natural sheep's grey sattinette, or even cadet-grey cassimere.

Trousers:

Should be of military cut, and should match the coat if possible. Trousers may have had no trim, or a variety of trim variations (see Cadet Impression Trousers)...at this point not enough research has been completed to define a particular cut/pattern of the trousers.

Vest: Vest should be of military cut, and should match the coat if possible.

Shirt: Regulations called for a White Shirt, and this is consistant with what is seen in period images of the VMI Staff...at this point not enough research has been completed to define a particular cut/pattern of the shirt, but please try to wear a white shirt if possible. Possible use of detacheable collars and cravats...documentation suggests this was used by the cadets.

Shoes: Should be military shoes or boots (Black)

Canteen: Undefined, possibly the same as the cadets (wooden Gardner Pattern) but some variation for the Officers may have existed.

Sword Belt: Should be black and should use a M1851 Federal Officer's plate, or some variation of CS or Virginia Spoon and Wreath Buckle.

Sword: Particular Type undefined, should be appropriate for use in Virginia theatre.

Pistol/Holster: Would have been private purchase...should be appropriate to Virginia Theatre (Holster=Black).

Drill Manual: Rifle and Light Infantry Tactics; for the exercise and maneuvers of troops when acting as light infantry or riflemen. Prepared under the direction of the War Department, by Brevet Lieut.-Col. W.J. Hardee (Richmond, Va.: J.W. Randolph, 1861). Note: this is a printing of the 1855 manual, not revised.

Buttons: Should be some Variation of VA Buttons, Federal Staff Officer, or of CS Manufacture.

Below you should find images of 3 "Subs" involved in the Battle as part of the VMI Cadet Battalion:

Cmmdt. Scott Shipp, T.B. Robinson, J.S. Wise

Stonewall_Greyfox
05-12-2008, 05:08 PM
Notice: Images of VMI Cadets and Professors "Subs" have been added.

More Images:

Top Row: R.B. Tunstall, L.C. Rickets (only mounted cadet at the BoNM), M.J. Ezekiel (1st Hebrew student at VMI, image is post new-market as it shows his promotion from Pvt. to Sgt.), J.S. Larrick (Oldest Cadet at the BoNM, 25, fought with Cadet Artillary detachment), O.P. Evans (2nd Oldest Cadet at the BoNM, Color-bearer)

Bottom Row: W.T. Yarborough, C.H. Minge, S.S. Shriver (right-side of image, showing use of white uniform trousers~not appropriate for New Market, image used to show individual, jacket, cap), J.C. Early (of kin to Gen. Jubal Early)

Paul B.

VA-Patriot'61
05-12-2008, 09:55 PM
Paul,
Glad to see the VMI CWRT is still involved up there at NM and continuing to grow. I wish the Army would let me go this weekend from training but duty calls so I won't be able to attend. Take care of the guys!

All,
I encourage anyone who is interested and falls within the age limits to look at participating with the group. They're a good bunch of guys and having some outside influence for authenticity would always be helpful.

I began to steer the current group down the right path along with Paul Boulden and Byron Faidley when we were still cadets so I'm glad to see the interest in the Institutes history is still there and growing.

Also for the viewers pleasure here is another image appropriate for the New Market Cadet impression.

Cadet S.W. Booth Class of 1867:

Stonewall_Greyfox
05-13-2008, 11:07 AM
Paul,
Glad to see the VMI CWRT is still involved up there at NM and continuing to grow. I wish the Army would let me go this weekend from training but duty calls so I won't be able to attend. Take care of the guys!

All,
I encourage anyone who is interested and falls within the age limits to look at participating with the group. They're a good bunch of guys and having some outside influence for authenticity would always be helpful.

I began to steer the current group down the right path along with Paul Boulden and Byron Faidley when we were still cadets so I'm glad to see the interest in the Institutes history is still there and growing.

Also for the viewers pleasure here is another image appropriate for the New Market Cadet impression.

Cadet S.W. Booth Class of 1867:

Kirb,

How did I miss the Booth image? :)

Well I decided to post a fiew pics of cadet items on here as well; included below you will find a towel attributed to Cadet Ben Colonna (he was reported to have carried this on the march)...and the F.L. Smith broadcloth roundabout (fatigue) jacket in the VMI Collection.

Also added: pics of items attributed to Cadet Charles H. Read (who took a hit from a Federal shell on top of Shirley's Hill, almost 2 miles from the Field of Lost Shoes). Items include his cartridge box, canteen and Austrian Lorenze Rifle (note the damage done to the rifle by the Federal shell). I've also added a few pics from the F.L. Smith uniform at New Market as well.

The jacket today has faded from a cadet-grey (spots on the internal of the jacket still have traces of the original color) to a pretty uniform medium green with brown cast. Note: Smith had multiple uniforms of the same cut, but of different fabrics...the one shown below being of broadcloth...and the uniform (jacket and trousers) on display at New Market's Hall of Valor, is of some type of jeans cloth (either a twill or cassimere). The New Market uniform will be examined this year in order to gain more insight into it's construction and analysis of the materials used in its production.

Top Row: Colonna Towel; F.L. Smith jacket broadcloth 1,2,3,4

Middle Row: Colonna Towel; F.L. Smith jacket broadcloth 5; Affects of C.H. Read 1,2; F.L. Smith jeans cloth jacket, belt, and bayonet scabbard

Bottom Row: F.L. Smith jeans cloth trowsers

kaelin
05-13-2008, 01:43 PM
Paul
THanks for sharing all these pics and information, I have always been fascinated by VMI and everything that surrounds the school. Wish I could be apart of this event, hopefully in the future. If you get a chance post some pics from the event, would like to see them.
thanks again
kaelin vernon

rebjeb04
05-13-2008, 08:40 PM
Thanks for all the great images Mr. Boulden.

I've always wondered if they really wore those pretty coats with all the froging on the front into the field. Several vendors should start carrying these jackets for you boys.

:)

Stonewall_Greyfox
05-13-2008, 09:36 PM
Thanks for all the great images Mr. Boulden.

I've always wondered if they really wore those pretty coats with all the froging on the front into the field. Several vendors should start carrying these jackets for you boys.

:)

Christopher,

Honestly the coatees (jackets with tails, frogging and 44 gold washed Institute Buttons) did see some battle action early on in the war; the VMI cadets did wear these uniforms at least part of the time while acting as Drill Instructors at the various Virginia Camps (Camp Lee, Camp Laurel Hill, Camp Harper's Ferry)...and cadet Charlie Norris even borrowed his friends coatee for the Battle of 1st Mannassas and was killed wearing it...the coatee is today on display at one of the NOVA Battlefield museums. By the Battle of McDowell (May 1862)...the school would have almost exclusively been in the fatigue dress.

However, in the Spring of 1861; the Institute officially abandoned this dress jacket because of it's high costs and impracticality, in favor of the simpler fatigue uniform consisting of a roundabout jacket and matching trousers.

There is a misnomer to the VMI Cadets wearing these coatees at New Market and this just is not the case...It stems from an account of one of the "Subs" Institute "adult" officers whose frock coat skirt was riddled with holes following the battle. Somewhere, in the history of this story, someone (probably an overjealous alumnus teaching his children about the battle of New Market) came up with the idea that the tails of coatees were removed to be used for bandages; this just isn't the case.

In fact two vendors already do make a VMI uniform; Mr. Michael McComas, and Scott and Fenny Hanes of the Richmond Depot. A third vendor may be starting production this year of the VMI Fatigue uniform. As always the problem is convincing people not affiliated with the Institute to purchase the uniform for a seemingly one-time impression...and with the boys/men at VMI being college kids, they can't always afford to buy personal uniform items (even though if they bought as a freshman, they would see many years of use out of said uniform).

Pictures, and data...no problem...I've done a bit of researching on the Civil War era VMI cadet...and figured it was only fair that I share a portion of that with the community as the anniversary of the Battle is coming up (May 15th)...and the annual event is going to be celebrated this weekend; where the VMI CWRT will be hosting a Living History throughout the weekend, and participating in the battle as their own company.

bholt61stny
05-14-2008, 12:52 AM
Paul,

Thanks for the advertising for the round table and as others have said the pictures and research that you have posted.

I think it is important to get the correct info out as I would venture to say that not many know too much about the Cadets at the Battle of New Market. They played a small part in a small battle, but they helped the Confederate forces to push back and defeat the Union forces.

Looking forward to a great weekend, see you there.

Kirby,

It would have been nice to see you up at the event, too bad duty calls. Good luck and Ill see you around.

Brian Holt
VMI 2008

Stonewall_Greyfox
05-14-2008, 09:05 AM
Paul,

Thanks for the advertising for the round table and as others have said the pictures and research that you have posted.

I think it is important to get the correct info out as I would venture to say that not many know too much about the Cadets at the Battle of New Market. They played a small part in a small battle, but they helped the Confederate forces to push back and defeat the Union forces.

Looking forward to a great weekend, see you there.

Kirby,

It would have been nice to see you up at the event, too bad duty calls. Good luck and Ill see you around.

Brian Holt
VMI 2008

Brian,

If the weather cooperates...maybe you can provide some of our guests a little insight as to how the battle progressed from Shirley's Hill, past the field of lost shoes, and across the river. It's amazing how many people think the battlefield is only that small portion preserved by the Institute, and don't realize the true scope of the battlefield encompassing the town and stretching from the heights above the Shenandoah R. all the way to the Gap.

oh...and I will have morning reports for us...

See you late Friday night! :D

Paul B.

Tucker49th
05-14-2008, 03:50 PM
Brian,

If the weather cooperates...maybe you can provide some of our guests a little insight as to how the battle progressed from Shirley's Hill, past the field of lost shoes, and across the river.

Brian , I want to second that idea. The quick tour you gave us this past October was a great learning experience . The view from Shirley's Hill gives you an exceptional view of the town and how the opening of the battle unfolded.

jandksuttorp
05-15-2008, 08:17 AM
Hey Comrades,
I have a question about the headgear, does black "navy-blue", mean a very dark navy-blue, or indeed a black color. I have a headgear fetish and am just wondering.

Thanks,
John Suttorp

Stonewall_Greyfox
05-15-2008, 08:25 AM
John,

It depends on the context...for example...their shakos were also referred to as being black in color...and they indeed meant black, as these were BLACK beaver skin. Note: These BLACK beaver skin shakos were abandonned as a uniform item, in Spring of 1861, when the VMI Superintendant wrote the order to no longer use the coattee...somewhere in my notes I have the order # and date.

With regards to the First Class Frock Coat, VA Militia Officers Uniforms, and Caps...these are often referred to as both Black and Blue (interchangeably)...and in the Institute's effort to match the State/Federal Uniform Regs., we know that the color of these uniforms was indeed a Dark Blue (Navy Blue)...which was sometimes was referred to as black.

Does this make since?

Paul B.

jandksuttorp
05-15-2008, 08:33 AM
Thanks, Paul.
Yes, that makes sense.

Thanks again,
John Suttorp

Stonewall_Greyfox
05-16-2008, 09:23 AM
One last bump for this thread...

Again, if individuals are interested in portraying cadets, and can meet these guidelines, please seek out the Cadet company which will be encamped around the Bushong Farm...

Individuals attending the event as participants/spectators; please stop by and say hello...several members of the group are active here on the AC...and it would provide us all an oppurtunity to put some faces to the names we see on here so often.

Have a Great Weekend!

Paul B.