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PvtHull48thovi
08-05-2008, 01:37 AM
Hey guys,

After the big Gettysburg, me and my family went around touring some Battlefeilds I had never been to. When I was at Pamplin park I was in their musem and noticed a Frock coat with federal eagle buttons on it, but something just didnt seem right about it. It had a hook and eye on the collar, but they werent hiddin in the cloth or anything they were right out in the open, I had never seen this before on a frock so I asked the musem curator, if i spelled that right, about it and she knew nothin about it. Later on at another park, I cant remember where, I saw a federal shell jacket with the same thing, these are the only two I have personally seen with hooks and eyes. Any one know if these a period or if theu are indian war, and no they didnt have the big ole poofy collars, they look very period to me but the question is, why where there hooks and eyes and was this common on federal issue frocks and shells!

Duff
08-05-2008, 02:09 AM
Every original frock I have seen has a hook and eye in the collar. You can see some original frocks here:

http://www.cwquartermaster.com/original_frock_coat.htm

AZReenactor
08-05-2008, 09:44 AM
They even have them on Federal overcoats. ;-)

boreguard
08-05-2008, 09:51 AM
I've also seen them on the tail pockets of Federal enlisted frocks. Keen observation and good question, keep up the good work Shelby.

CSchneider
08-05-2008, 09:55 AM
Yes, they all seem to have them. If you are referring to the way that they are attached to the coat, however, there are different methods. Examining original military garments (not just Federal frocks), you'll notice that many hooks and eyes are "hidden" a bit by being sewn into the collar seam. Others are often simply placed on top of the inside of the collar and sewn into place with varying degrees of crudeness, as I think you are describing.

-Craig Schneider

PvtHull48thovi
08-05-2008, 01:04 PM
Hey guys,
I appreciate alot, I just have never really seen this before, I mean down in Louisiana there really arent many musems around that I can go to. There all way down south of me. I appreciate all the help guys.