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jdanner723
01-15-2009, 08:05 PM
Hi all,
I have a knapsack question. A few years ago I bought a knapsack from Missouri Boot and Shoe. Around the same time I bought a Keagy Nobel blanket. This is a problem that I've been having ever since and always wondered about. My blanket is VERY snug when I fold and place it in my bag, almost as if the blanket were too big or the knapsack too small. It leaves me absolutely no space for a shelter half or anything. I was wondering if this is common. I have rarely used the knapsack...is it possible that the knapsack needs to broken in? If so, how would I do this? Thank you for your help.

Joey

Andrew Kasmar
01-15-2009, 08:12 PM
Hi,

Try folding the blanket, and then instead of putting it in the blanket compartment, just lay it on top. Then put the bag portrion of the knapsack on top of the blanket, and then buckle it. I have done this with almost all of my knapsacks, and have had no problem with packing them. I hope this helps.

Andrew

Andrew Kasmar
01-15-2009, 08:23 PM
Hi,

Also, try this link http://www.26nc.org/Articles/knapsack%20and%20blanket%20roll.pdf

Andrew

jdanner723
01-15-2009, 08:40 PM
Andrew,
Did you mean put the blanket in between the bags? The article you posted was the one that I was using so I folded the blanket three times as instructed and for some reason the width of the blanket is much larger than the width of the bag. Does this make sense? If not I can post some pictures.

Joey

Andrew Kasmar
01-15-2009, 08:45 PM
Hi,

Did you mean put the blanket in between the bags?

Yes, that is what I have done. Use the CS packing instructions for the blanket, and it should fit very well.

Andrew

lukegilly13
01-15-2009, 09:04 PM
I believe that space and/or weight in the knapsack was a problem during the war as well. If you look closely you will see several soldiers wearing bedrolls over their knapsacks. I do this with my single bag and it works great.....much more comfortable than putting it inside. Hope this helps.

Curt-Heinrich Schmidt
01-15-2009, 09:16 PM
Hallo!

IMHO...

Experiment.
As did CW soldiers, experiment to see how you can make what you were issued "work," and work for you.

I sometimes use a Childs/Gaede blanket in a Federal "double bag" knapsack.
It takes some clever folding AND some "compression" to easily go into its knapsack bag.
I do not try to add anything to that "bag." The shelter half when carried, or the gum blanket, get folded and sandwiched between the bags.
(I generally do not carry a rolled blanket on top, as the rolled greatcoat is there. However, when the greatcoat is seasonally turned in along with its greatcoat straps, I have no choice there.)

Curt

Secechsoldier
01-16-2009, 12:57 AM
Hi,

A few years back I my-self did some research on the fedral blankets and there use in the Fedral double bag Knapsack!
I came across a few letters talking about some Sececsh had gotten hold of some Fedral Blankets and knapsacks.

Now> This Civilian noted that the 2" Cornfeds he had seen during the day were loaded down with Fedral issue blankets.
He went into well detail about the unifourms and gear, He said one To the far left had a pack on Packed with a blanket ONLY Nothing els! with a small Cup hooked at the Left buckle.He also had another issue blanket pulled around him in a Mule shoe fourm, and was holding another in his left arm and rife in the other.

This is what the first few lines stated > ( The Blankets seem to cover them both as if they were pack mules! ) one in the Knapsack one over the sholder and one or two in the arms ! The letter told just about every detail about these two soldiers and there gear.(:

Civilians name was James Silbee

Thought I would add a few lines>(-;

________________
W.Verbal
Wigfall Mess,
50Th va. inf. co. H.
Army Northern Virginia

Charles Heath
01-16-2009, 06:41 AM
Joey,

It's possible the knapsack's "east-west" strap is too short. This problem was very common on early MB&S double bags, and may have been so on the original bag Bob copied way back when. If so, take a small billet of leather (a spare coat strap is ideal) and make a field modification in the form of an extension approximately 6" to 8" long. Punching overlapping holes in the billet will allow you to simply use a shoelace or piece of fine hemp twine to connect the two without sewing. This also provides a place for that handy-in-the-rain spare knapsack hook.

Consider attending the PL COI in April, as that will be an excellent time and place to get some of these basic questions answered. Registration is now open.

pvt_jb
01-16-2009, 08:07 AM
I have a blanket from S&S that was quite a chore to get in my pack. It was all about experimenting with the folding and stuffing in. I switched to a NJS blanket and that took a few tries with folding technique but less then the other. I leave the blanket it in there and it seems to have stretched a bit and works better now. If I need to now I can get a shelter half in there too.

Now one of my messmates has a KN blanket and a MB&S doublebag. He gets the blanket in there but it is tight. Again I think finding the right folding combo and leaving it in the pack all the time will be your key.

10TnVI
01-16-2009, 10:49 AM
My friend-it can be done with a little experimentation -I routinely pack two issue blankets(a 'Julius Jones' and an 'Abe Thomas') in my MB&S early war doublebag and still can fit an extra shirt, chance of socks, and assorted small stuff. Gum blanket usually goes on outside top for convienence.
Kinda fold it to close to the size of your pack and then tuck it in around the edges. Repeat if using second blanket. Buckle side flaps first then top and bottom, tuck in any odd corners that try to poke out.

jdanner723
01-16-2009, 02:24 PM
Great! Thank you all for your help. I have noticed that it is easier now that I've left the blanket in there for awhile. Meaning before I would could only use the first punched hole in the "east-west" straps. Now after leaving it sit for a few months I've noticed I can use the last punched hole. Additionally, it is getting easier to close the knapsack's outter straps as well. I bought the knapsack mayber 5 or 6 years ago so it is quite possible that I do have an early MB&S bag. Thank you all for your input. Maybe it just needed to be broken in a little bit, but I will certainly consider the "field modification" technique by using my overcoat straps. Thank you all again.

Joey