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lthull3rdla
04-08-2009, 07:56 AM
I have a pair of J.T. Martin Trousers that I dearly love. Last weekend I had an abnormal number of questions about why the waist line was so high. Indeed, it does come up about 4 inches above my navel. Someone said they looked like Steve Erkel pants. Are they SUPPOSED to ride that high up your mid section?

thanks

Ronnie

Guy Gane III
04-08-2009, 10:52 AM
YES!!!! NEVER judge old timey clothes to modern stuff. :wink_smil

-Jesse-
04-08-2009, 11:16 AM
YES!!!! NEVER judge old timey clothes to modern stuff. :wink_smil

Exactly! and they will also keep your "nipps" warm:wink_smil

PieBoy96
04-08-2009, 11:34 AM
Photos will usually answer many of these types of questions.

http://www.libertyrifles.org/research/darkblues62/engambulance.jpg

http://www.libertyrifles.org/research/tools/grapevine1.jpg

http://www.libertyrifles.org/research/tools/grapevine3.jpg

http://www.libertyrifles.org/research/tools/jericho2.jpg

Johnny Lloyd
04-08-2009, 11:41 AM
There was once a time when pants were worn upon the "natural waist" being above where you would wear pants today, near the navel. If the pants are made correctly to period specifications they will ride higher than pants of about post-1950s (modern) make.

Some soldiers in the above photos are this way- especially if they have suspenders on, but when one wears Fed uniform trousers with a belt, then bellies/gravity tend to make your pants droop from the natural waist where they are supposed to be.

Now you might understand why your grandfather wears his pants up to his elbows. :rolleyes::p

All the best- Johnny Lloyd:wink_smil

Curt Schmidt
04-08-2009, 12:53 PM
Hallo!

The other factor is the pattern itself.

When viewed from the side:

Modern trousers have a horizontal waistband as well as a straight backside.
NUG, period trouser patterns have a more-or-less horizontal waistband to the side seam, but then can rise roughly 20/30/45 degrees.

And they have yokes that are not perpendicular to the top but slopes downward.

(As comparerd to modern pants and the "mainstream" "run-of-the-mill" sutler offerrings that were clone from a modern pair of pants with some features added such as wool, rear yoke, supender buttons, and a button fly to make them seem "Civil War.")

Curt

Guy Gane III
04-08-2009, 07:04 PM
(As comparerd to modern pants and the "mainstream" "run-of-the-mill" sutler offerrings that were clone from a modern pair of pants with some features added such as wool, rear yoke, supender buttons, and a button fly to make them seem "Civil War.")


hahahahaha Exactly. :D