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508preach
06-01-2009, 09:58 AM
I had a discussion the other day with someone on why people in the authentic community tend to shy away from the zouave aspect of the hobby and decided to throw this out there. Who would be interested in doing an authentic company of Lousiana Wheat Tigers for 150th Gettysburg?

FranklinGuardsNYSM
06-01-2009, 10:16 AM
I've not encountered any evidence to indicate the zouave uniform of the company was still in use as late as Gettysburg.

LibertyHallVols
06-01-2009, 10:48 AM
I think a zoave impression would be really cool and I know a number of authentics who've done so. However, I would opt for a Fed regiment, especially given Marc's observation, above.

FlatLandFed
06-01-2009, 11:13 AM
Wasn't the 146th NY wearing newish light blue zoo zoo suits when they helped claim LRT?
What do you who portray that regiment say?
Obliged,
Paul Hadley

LibertyHallVols
06-01-2009, 11:41 AM
Wasn't the 146th NY wearing newish light blue zoo zoo suits when they helped claim LRT?
What do you who portray that regiment say?

That's exactly who crossed my mind. What makes that regiment good to portray is the fact that their uniforms were produced at Schuylkill Arsenal, so there is less of a concern about "what fabric to use" in reproducing them. The main fabric is good ol' sky blue kersey!
http://www.cjdaley.com/146thNYSV.htm

FloridaConscript
06-01-2009, 11:45 AM
Eric Stephenson, who sometimes posts, used to do the 146th NY. I'm sure he has some info as to what those fellows had in July of 63
I wa sunder the impression that Wheats battalion was disbanded by July of 63.
Now the 150th of Jacksons Valley campaign is another matter.....

PogueMahone
06-01-2009, 11:49 AM
Who is organizing the 150th Gettysburg event? Is this going to be an event worth attending for the historical representation or is it the feel good sentimental favorite mainstream effort?

LibertyHallVols
06-01-2009, 12:03 PM
Who is organizing the 150th Gettysburg event? Is this going to be an event worth attending for the historical representation or is it the feel good sentimental favorite mainstream effort?

Joe,

(In a "Tony the Tiger" voice) Grrrrrrr-eat questions!

I will be a "A" 150th Gettsyburg event. A lot will need to change before I would agree to attend "THE" 150th Gettsyburg event. I gave up megafests after Manassmess 140.

Thanks for keeping us on-track.

And now, a word from Modsylvania:
If this thread devolves to an "Us vs Them" discussion, it will be closed. Thanks for your understanding on this.

paulcalloway
06-01-2009, 12:11 PM
Would be wonderful to get authentic dual living histories going on both sides of the field at some point in 2013. I'd make the drive for that one.

FloridaConscript
06-01-2009, 12:20 PM
Would be wonderful to get authentic dual living histories going on both sides of the field at some point in 2013. I'd make the drive for that one.

I'll second that. be pretty cool to have 2 250 man battalions squaring off.
Maybe 4th texas and 124th NY? 1st Minn and 8th Fl?

FranklinGuardsNYSM
06-01-2009, 12:30 PM
The 146th was in regulation stuff at Gettysburg, didn't get their Zouave stuff until later.

You have the 114th PA, 10th NY (HQ Guard), 14th Brooklyn, 72nd PA, 95th PA, and maybe pieces here and there among the 73rd NY remaining.

Dignann
06-01-2009, 01:02 PM
The 146th was in regulation stuff at Gettysburg, didn't get their Zouave stuff until later.
According to Brainard's regimental history, the 146th New York received their zouave uniforms June 3, 1863, prior to Gettysburg. I believe the 140th New York was, however, still in regulation attire at that time.

Eric

LibertyHallVols
06-01-2009, 01:35 PM
In reading Sears' book, I thought that a "Gettysburg After Dark" scenario would be pretty interesting... the scenario being a picket post during the evening of either June 30 or maybe July 1.

My preference would be June 30. At that point, neither side had a good grasp how many they were facing, but tensions were high.

FranklinGuardsNYSM
06-01-2009, 01:44 PM
According to Brainard's regimental history, the 146th New York received their zouave uniforms June 3, 1863, prior to Gettysburg. I believe the 140th New York was, however, still in regulation attire at that time.

Aye aye, my mistake.

Mcouioui
06-01-2009, 02:52 PM
French, the truths, to follow you in this new adventure, that interest you???
Then, what regiment? 146th. 140th. Other?:tounge_sm

btfire
06-01-2009, 03:18 PM
I am not trying to be "us vs. them," even though it may seem so...

We all know what takes place at Gettysburg, and I support Mike "Stranger/Danger" Kirby if it means I will go to hell with him, but why worry about where we know we are not as welcome. Over in a little town on a big river will be a prime spot to focus a 150th where we ARE wanted and accepted. These two events took place at the same time and the real c/p/h community can move west and do something real. There are some quality people who have had quality events in/near said town before...

AndrewGrim
06-01-2009, 03:27 PM
I had a discussion the other day with someone on why people in the authentic community tend to shy away from the zouave aspect of the hobby and decided to throw this out there. Who would be interested in doing an authentic company of Lousiana Wheat Tigers for 150th Gettysburg?

Thae 1st Louisiana Special Battalion, Louisiana Infantry, aka Wheat's Tiger Zouaves did not fight at Gettysburg. The battalion was disbanded on August 21, 1862, following the death of Roberdeau Wheat at Gaines' Mill. I do not know when the 1st Battalion, Louisiana Zouave (Coppens) was detached from the Army of Northern Virginia for duty in Virginia.

paulcalloway
06-01-2009, 04:52 PM
I think the Zouave question has been answered.

If anyone wants to start a true Gettysburg 2013 thread, go ahead - we were kinda discussing two different subject here in this thread.