View Full Version : Living History at Wilson's Creek NBP Aug 9-10, 2004
M_Kupsch
12-24-2003, 12:52 PM
The Army Of the Trans-Mississippi Battalion will sponsor an immersion Living History event at Wilson’s Creek National Battlefield Park August 7-8, 2004. We will depict the pro-southern Missouri State Guard (MSG) as they are encamped along the banks of Wilson’s Creek just days before the battle on August 10, 1861.
For those that participated in the WIG’s event as Shiloh, then you will be doubtless familiar with what we are trying to accomplish. From the time we form the battalion and begin movement along the Old Wire road towards our encampment until the final dismissal formation, we will be living as soldiers. There are roles for civilians and interaction with the civilians located at the Ray House is part of the over all scenario. Civilian roles are very limited and information regarding this will come later when exact roles become defined.
We will raise 3 companies to comprise the battalion. We have not selected Captains, but once selected, they will begin active recruiting to fill their ranks. More information to follow as it becomes available, including the names of the company commanders, impression guidelines, registration form, and scenario information. We will charge a registration fee to cover the rations.
The NPS is very excited at hosting this living history event. This is a very large scale living history and has never been done at Wilson’s Creek. We are very honored that the Chief Park Ranger approached the AoTM Battalion about sponsoring this event. We have an excellent opportunity to show how we can serve as historical interpreters rather than costumed individuals firing weapons for demonstrations.
Please feel free to e-mail me if you have questions. Or e-mail Frank Aufmuth at campjacksonboy@aol.com .
Ken Cornett
12-25-2003, 07:28 PM
Michael,
Will there eventually be a website dedicated to this event?
Ken Cornett
Buckeye Mess
M_Kupsch
12-26-2003, 10:54 AM
Ken,
Quite honestly, I had not even thought about setting up a website for this event. It is a good idea and will be discussed at the AOTM meeting in January.
Campjacksonboy
12-26-2003, 01:13 PM
You can either visit the MainWebsite:
www.campjacksonboy.aol.com/campjacksonboy/index.html
or you can go straight to the guidelines page for Wilson's Creek:
http://members.aol.com/campjacksonboy/AuthenticityGuidelines.html
There is a registration link however registration will not open up until at least next week
Frank Aufmuth
Shotgun Messiah
01-22-2004, 02:26 PM
Ken,
Quite honestly, I had not even thought about setting up a website for this event. It is a good idea and will be discussed at the AOTM meeting in January.
I was wondering sir? If the AoTM is pondering anything on Westport this year in and around Westport. Perhaps a Little Blue or Independence or something. Being as though a Mainstream event is due in May1/2 over in St. Louis. Was hoping for a Kansas City connection. Like the Wilsons Creek Though sounds great.
Lee Hook
3rd Mo./Crowleys Co
Campjacksonboy
01-26-2004, 02:43 PM
In our excitement to do this living history we made one oversite we should fix. It is the National Park Service that hosts events on their sites. Apologies to John Sutton the Chief Park Ranger.
Also to answer an earlier question. Due to the lack of a sutable site nothing was mentioned about it at our meeting the other day. It is unlikely anything will happen on the Western side of Missouri by us. With the Bleeding Kansas event in June (Guidelines, Registration all all relevent websites to be posted very soon) and the Wilson's Creek living history in August we have our work cut out for us.
Frank Aufmuth
Shotgun Messiah
01-26-2004, 11:45 PM
In our excitement to do this living history we made one oversite we should fix. It is the National Park Service that hosts events on their sites. Apologies to John Sutton the Chief Park Ranger.
Also to answer an earlier question. Due to the lack of a sutable site nothing was mentioned about it at our meeting the other day. It is unlikely anything will happen on the Western side of Missouri by us. With the Bleeding Kansas event in June (Guidelines, Registration all all relevent websites to be posted very soon) and the Wilson's Creek living history in August we have our work cut out for us.
Frank Aufmuth
Thank you sir for your quick reply
Lee Hook
Campjacksonboy
04-07-2004, 11:39 AM
Apparently there is a rumor floating around that this one has bit the dust.
However this is not so.
Get yerselves registered for the forage.
almost forgot. Presently companies will be commanded by Mike Kupsch, Mike Patrick and there will be a third out of Arkansas. Will we have a fourth? interested potential company comanders may apply to the subscriber. (Ah-hem) any of you from the 15th Texas Preservation March interested?
Frank Aufmuth
Old Reb
04-07-2004, 12:01 PM
[This Ground Hornet will be there!
QUOTE=Campjacksonboy]Apparently there is a rumor floating around that this one has bit the dust.
However this is not so.
Get yerselves registered for the forage.
almost forgot. Presently companies will be commanded by Mike Kupsch, Mike Patrick and there will be a third out of Arkansas. Will we have a fourth? interested potential company comanders may apply to the subscriber. (Ah-hem) any of you from the 15th Texas Preservation March interested?
Frank Aufmuth[/QUOTE]
John of the Skulkers Mess
04-28-2004, 01:22 PM
Just checking, but there's no Federal LH portion planned is there, for this date in particular?
Have civilian, will travel,
John Pillers
TSM
Tom Ezell
04-28-2004, 01:39 PM
Just checking, but there's no Federal LH portion planned is there, for this date in particular?
I be a'comin', too... and can go either way... Fed, Cornfed, or Hostile Third Party/MSG...
Not to dilute any of the effort, but it would be nice to get the "1st Iowa" together again one of these days... I've got a pair of britches with the seat and legs wore slap-dab out that I've been saving if this impression should ever come around again... ;-)
Tom
MoFed
04-28-2004, 08:49 PM
Just checking, but there's no Federal LH portion planned is there, for this date in particular?
Have civilian, will travel,
John Pillers
TSM
No, but Holmes Brigade is portraying Sigel's 3rd Mo. Vol. on June 12-13. Drop me an e-mail if you are interested.
Charles D. Hoskins
huntdaw
06-01-2004, 03:25 AM
Haven't heard anything on this for a while. Is everything still on track? Can someone post an update on how things are coming along?
Campjacksonboy
06-03-2004, 07:30 PM
Everything is going fine for Wilson's Creek everything is on track.
If you have not registered please do. We are expecting/hoping for at least two companies of infantry and a section of artillery donated by the park.
This is going to be an excellent living history and an unforgettable weekend
IF ...
people come. I mean its kind of hard to pull off a battalion with 5 people. If Wilson's Creek was in Tennessee we would be beating you off with sticks. However it is not and the Trans-Miss feels powerful lonely these days(pun intended).
If any of you need the contact information please let me know.
Sincerely,
Frank Aufmuth
John of the Skulkers Mess
06-03-2004, 08:32 PM
I received from Mike Kupsch an e-mail info packet. I'm sure Frank has it too.
Suppose anyone interested can get it from me:
skulkerjohn@yahoo.com
Or post your addy here,
John Pillers
P.S.
Heard of Gen'l Sweeny's (sp?) museum?
Its across the street.....
John of the Skulkers Mess
06-24-2004, 01:00 AM
I believe the planners are trying to get a head count by July.....
A reminder,
John Pillers
Campjacksonboy
07-14-2004, 01:32 PM
One cool thing I've seen with many events is not letting people know what to expect. But I can give you the beginning and end without destroying the middle.
We will be arriving on Friday so whenever ya'll arrive someone should be there that knows something. I hope (hope being the word) to be there by Noon on Friday Just rest assured I won't leave yall hangin longer than necessary. Mike Kupsch will also be there.
That being said we will camp at a staging area Friday night. Reveille on Saturday will be 5 am after breakfast we will march out.
Once we arrive at the demonstration area we will set up camp.
Tents are invited and encouraged (for once). The MSG evidently captured some at Carthage back in July. A-Frames of the proper dimensions [6'x6'], tent flys, blankets all appropriate. A big NO! to Mountain man tents, shelter halves, and sibleys. If you bring a tent expect company. Here's a cool tent quote from Wilson's Creek:
"Dr. Samuel H. Melcher, assistant surgeon of the 5th Missouri, rode over the former Southern cavalry camp spread across Sharp's fields. He discovered that some of the tents there used upended, bayoneted muskets for poles, the canvas being "caught in the flint lock." (Piston & Hatcher, Wilson's Creek, 247)
These tents were found in the area where we will be camping. It would be cool if we could do that but they don't make bayonets the way they used to. I have a spool of twine for any shebang endeavors anyone may have.
We will be busy all weekend after we arrive (not going to spoil the middle).
On Sunday a few more demonstrations. Around 2 pm on Sunday the "general" will be sounded and we will quickly strike tents, pack the wagon and march back to our Cars and this will be the end of our Living History.
Because of a shortage of Ammunition the park is allowing us to bring our own to help supplement what the park already has (Yes I know National Parks usually don't allow this):
"One option to solve the ammo question is to have each man bring 40 rounds
of blank ammo for their own piece. Blanks should be made with single
cylinder with folded and glued end, or tied end.
.69 cal./12 gauge 75 grains FFG
.50-.58 cal. .65 grains FFG
Below .50 cal. .50 grains FFG"
(e-mail from John Sutton, Chief Park Ranger)
Any ammo you bring should be bundled or put in a bag it will be kept in the company ammo box until issued. Bagging it or bundeling it will make it easier to return.
You will have food if you registered. Mike Kupsch wants all registration by July 26. This link has the guidelines and registration info.
http://www.hometown.aol.com/campjacksonboy/AuthenticityGuidelines.html
Well that's all I can think of let me know if there are any questions (directions, etc.).
Frank Aufmuth
AoTM
huntdaw
07-15-2004, 01:11 AM
Concerning tents: If we are gathering at a staging area on Friday and marching to our camp area on Saturday; if one brings a tent are they going to have to hump the canvas, poles, stakes etc. on Saturday morning to wherever we go or will there be some way to get them there and set up (pretend wagons)? Might make a difference in deciding what cover, if any, to bring for the weekend.
Campjacksonboy
07-15-2004, 10:55 AM
Good question.
You will not have to hump the canvass or poles. They will be thrown in the wagon at tour stop #5. Our Quartermaster and Commissary will be there to watch over anything you leave there as they will be busy "slaughtering" the beef. The down side is as hard as we tried we were not able to get a team of animals to pull the wagon so it will stay stationary all weekend. On Friday night we will be separated from the wagon. But once we arrive at Tour Stop #5 it will all fit into the scenario from setting up camp at the beginning and the "general" at the end.
After we march back to the cars at the end of the weekend you will be able to pull up to our former camp and throw your stuff in your car. That part of it (picking up your tent) will be a 15 minute inconvenience. At the latest we should all be on the road home by 3 pm.
Frank Aufmuth
TeamsterPhil
07-15-2004, 08:41 PM
There will be no pretend wagons at this event. There will be one reproduction "RoyBuilt" farm wagon that has given the AoTM good service at Athens '02 and also has proven it has a good top speed with the AoP at TAG.
Phil Campbell
QM/Teamster
Campjacksonboy
07-23-2004, 05:42 PM
To anyone that is coming out there:
Does anyone have a period or period looking round ball bullet mold of any caliber? I have a .32 just that it is made of aluminum.
Frank
fahtz
07-24-2004, 12:33 AM
Frank,
I have one coming in on monday. It will be in your hands on Thursday the 5th.
huntdaw
07-31-2004, 10:30 PM
Just wondering if the NPS has set any guidelines as far as how we can carry our cartridges. I know the event guidelines mentions a variety of things we can have that can be used for carrying cartidges, but I wanted to make sure that the park was not going to insist on cartridge boxes for safety reasons. Since I don't have any pre-war accoutrements, I wasn't planning on bringing a cartridge box and don't want to be surprised when I get there. Same question regarding caps.
Campjacksonboy
08-03-2004, 12:31 PM
Mike
The only concern the park seemed to have was loose powder. Such as powder horns. Use what you were planning to use. If the park makes a liar out of me I have extra loaner gear and I'll set you up.
Frank
Dennis Faught
08-05-2004, 06:34 PM
Just wondering if the NPS has set any guidelines as far as how we can carry our cartridges.
Mike,
We've done several living histories at WC, and I've carried cartridges in canvas bags and even in my pockets without objection. Caps I usually put in a vest pocket.
As Frank says, only stipulation in the past has been no loose powder.
Usual protocol was we were issued just enough cartridges for each demonstration, just prior to forming up. This, however, was done when the park supplied the cartridges and caps.
fahtz
08-09-2004, 10:18 PM
After Action Report for Wilson's Creek National Battle Park Living History
Just after bedding down Friday night near the cemetery about midnight, the Missouri State Guard was awoken with the order to pack up and get ready to move. After a nice 1/2 mile march we arrived at the Ray House. Here we were ordered to drop packs and bed down for the night.
The morning began early at around 5, with roll call and learning of Scott's Infantry Tactics. After about an hour or so of this Mrs. Ray and her children and some neighbors came out and found an army encamped on her yard. Our Lieutenant offered to pay for some food as we had been separated from our supply wagon. She agreed and we were treated to a helping of biscuits and corn bread, and a little coffee. After breakfast we held elections for rank. Several of our Sgt.’s had been killed in action at Carthage. The rest of the morning consisted of drill, and then a hardy 2 or so mile march through the park to our next site. Upon arriving we were reunited with out baggage and supply wagon. Also there waiting was the Inspector General of the Missouri State Guard. He promptly inspected our arms and issued a few new ones to the unarmed ones among us. After this we went straight into drill again. After a lunch of bread, corn and boiled beef, we began work on various details. One of the details was to make cartridges for the upcoming campaign. Another was to cut rod to make canister rounds for the Artillery, and another was to find some trees for firewood. After a few hours of this we had some more drill. For supper we had a rather disgusting stew of boiled beef fat, tomatoes, and onions. That evening we were set to cleaning our weapons and bedded down early.
The next morning we all awoke to very damp and cold weather. The dew was heavy. We all huddled around the fire to take in the warmth. We then were set to another commissary experiment of pumpkin, potatoes, and onions all mixed to make a hash. The potatoes tasted like onions, the onions tasted like pumpkin and the pumpkin had no taste what so ever. Yet again we were set to drill for an hour. Then upon return to camp we went back to making canister rounds, this time we set to making the powder bags and sabots, and finishing them off. We were then told to pack up again as we were going to be on the move that afternoon to Springfield to attack General Lyon and the Federal forces. After we had all packed up we were treated to a wonderful lunch of bread and watermelon. Yet again we drilled for about an hour. After a short rest we loaded up the wagon and headed down the Wire Road for Springfield.
Old Reb
08-20-2004, 10:35 PM
Enjoyed meeting old friends and making new ones at Wilson's Creek. The weather was great, the event was a good one. Thanks to everyone.
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