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Jerry Ross
09-14-2011, 09:12 PM
Hello Y'all,
Here are the guidelines for the event. John Walsh will be posting the registration form tonight.
-We will start Thursday night February 9th and camping off site. Vans provided by the NPS will transport you to the site.
-Friday AM will march towards Fort Donelson recreating 10 miles of the retreat from Fort Henry.
-Saturday and Sunday will be a static living history program.
-We will portraying units leaving Fort Henry.
-Horses will be allowed on the park for the weekend.
-3 companies of infantry ,1 company of Cavalry, 2 wagons
-Registration will open the end of September 15th
-Cost $15 early payment to pay for food and donation to park
This will go up the closer the date


contact John Walsh or myself if you would like to help.
Jerryrosssgt@hotmail.com
john@fortdonelsonrelics.com

Withdrawing to Fort Donelson Guidelines Feb 9-12 2012

Coats – jean, cassimere, satinette construction with hand-sewn buttonholes at a minimum.
1. Frock coats
2.Civilian Sack Coats
3.Commutation shell jackets.
Black trimmed optional

Overcoats
1.Civilian
2.Weller style
3.Carpets
4. Bear or Buffalo robes

Pants– jean, cassimere, satinette construction with hand-sewn buttonholes at a minimum.
1. Military pattern
2. Civilian pattern
NO federal sky blue trousers will be allowed.
Wide black stripes optional

Shoes
1. Civilian pattern shoes and boots
2. Confederate Issue Shoes
3. Infantry Boots
4. Federal Brogans- Last Choice

Headgear
1. Civilian slouch hat
2. CS kepi black trimmed optional

Shirts
Civilian pattern shirt made of woven material hand sewn buttonholes

Drawers – Canton flannel or cotton muslin / osnaburg of military or civilian pattern

Socks - Woven wool or cotton socks with natural colors.
NO elastic or rag wool socks-
Accouterments

Cartridge Boxes
1. CS issue boxes – preferably something early war western theater – Magee and George, Baton Rouge Arsenal
2. English Import Cartridge Box
3. US Issue Cartridge Box

Cap pouches
1. CS issue cap pouches – same as cartridge boxes
2. English Import Cap Box
3. US Cap Box

Belt
1. Fork Tongue
2. Spoon and wreath
3. English Import Belts
4. Roller buckle

No Federal Belts allowed.

Bayonet scabbards
1. CS issue
2. English Import Scabbard
3. Federal scabbards- strongly discouraged, but if you lack a CS scabbard these will be accepted.

Haversacks –
Documented Confederate issue haversack of painted or unpainted cloth.
No federal haversacks.

Canteen
1. CS tin drum
2. wooden drum canteen

Knapsacks
1. Mexican war
2. CS single bag including English Import Knapsacks
3. Militia hard packs
4. BEDROLLS are also allowed. NO Federal Bags,.

Long arms
1. 1853 Enfield
2. 1842 Springfield
4. 1855 Springfield, 1816/22 conversions 5. Flintlocks to Mississippi Rifles 6. Full length shotguns

Blankets
1. Civilian coverlets or 2-piece blankets
2. CS issue blankets

Tents and flys are highly encouraged because of threat of severe weather.
Wagons are being used to transport from site to site. Canvas and poles will need to be marked to keep together.

Eyewear
1. Period frames only.
2. NO modern eyewear of ANY kind! (Contacts excluded)

fortdonelsonrelics
09-14-2011, 11:21 PM
Here you go - Registration is now open - print off the form and mail it in with the payment.

Registration Link; http://www.fortdonelsonrelics.com/images/pdfs/Microsoft%20Word%20-%20Registration%20Withdrawing%20to%20Fort%20Donels on.pdf

Disclaimers for this event:

1. No Refunds - these funds are going towards rations and park donation
2. You will not have access to a car or most likely cell service - this will be campaigning.
3. If you have a medical issue that would cause you to second guess this event - don't do it. However, if you want to participate, feel free to register, skip the march and come and play Saturday through Sunday.
4. We will not be disclosing the location of the Thursday night camp at LBL to keep traffic out of that area.

Overall Schedule:

Thursday, Feb 9th - Sign in at Fort Donelson National Battlefield Visitors Center - 3pm - 9pm
- Cars will be left at Fort Donelson Parking areas
- Last Shuttle to Fort Henry Area Leaves at 9:30PM

Friday, Feb 10th - Sign in at Fort Donelson National Battlefield Visitors Center - 7am - 8:30am
- Last Shuttle to Fort Henry Area Leaves at 9:00AM
- Break Camp - Load Gear Into Wagons
- Column will leave Fort Henry Area at approx 9:45AM
- March to Friday Night Camp Area - Wagons Will Meet - Set Up Camp
- Marching Distance Approximagey 5-6miles

Saturday, Feb 11th
- AM Camp Will Break - Load Gear Into Wagons
- Column Marches Out to Fort Donelson to Trace
- From the Trace we will pick up a police escort to Hwy 79 to Fort Donelson in view of the public
- Column arrives at Fort Donelson and sets up Camp
- We will do two firing demonstrations in the afternoon
- 4:00 Event officially over for those who want to leave

Sunday, Feb 12th
- For those that are left -
- Two Firing Demonstrations 1 in AM - 1 in PM
- Break Camp at 3pm

John Walsh

fortdonelsonrelics
09-14-2011, 11:32 PM
For your impressions, our sources indicate these were the units that evacuated Fort Henry on or around Feb 6-7th, 1862 to leave for Fort Donelson.

10th Tennessee
15th Arkansas
48th Tennessee
51st Tennessee (Not full battalion strength)
4th Mississippi
26th Alabama
27th Alabama

Also - as noted in an earlier post - weather can change within hours in this area in February, as a result, please plan accordingly.

John Walsh

BrianHicks
09-15-2011, 07:05 AM
I am recruiting for, and will the commander of a Company representing the 48th Tennessee. Most of you know me as having worked to present the Backwaters 1865 event there at the LBL site. I am familiar with the terrain some what, and look forward to this 150th event for the Fort Donelson National Battlefield.

fortdonelsonrelics
09-15-2011, 09:14 AM
Gents -

1 Company of Infantry - Commanded By Brian Hicks - 48th Tennessee

2 Company of Infantry - Awaiting Confirmation -

3 Company of Infantry - Open

1 Company of Cavalry - Ethan Harrington - Gantt's 9th Tennessee Cavalry

Contact us directly if you are interested in commanding the last company.

For registering, simply put the commanders name on the line of the registration form when you send it in. Once we secure the other two companies command - we will post.

John Walsh

dixieflyer
09-15-2011, 09:21 AM
In the listing on the guidelines: is the number indicative of preference? In other words, is #1 more desirable than #2 or #3? Or is it just a general list?

fortdonelsonrelics
09-15-2011, 10:47 AM
In the listing on the guidelines: is the number indicative of preference? In other words, is #1 more desirable than #2 or #3? Or is it just a general list?

The guidlines are general reference.

For further research on the historical context - here are some good references:

"Where the South Lost The War" Kendall Gott - Recently re-published in paperback - or here: http://books.google.com/books/about/Where_the_South_lost_the_war.html?id=GOZ-OWNjSHUC

"The Battle of Fort Donelson: No Terms But Unconditional Surrender" By James R. Knight - or here: http://books.google.com/books?id=DauvRxy8IooC&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Battle+of+Fort+Donelson&hl=en&ei=0g5yToKBIoaSgQf-9fyMBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Forts Henry and Donelson: The Key to the Confederate Heartland By Benjamin Franklin Cooling - or here: http://books.google.com/books?id=EEG6THzNezEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Benjamin+Cooling&hl=en&ei=NQ9yTqv-JdT3gAfupNSMBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&sqi=2&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false

John Walsh

desotobob
09-15-2011, 01:27 PM
Mr. Walsh - form printed and sent in today.
Mr. Hicks - my ancestor was in the 49th, so I will be proud to serve with you in the 48th.

dixieflyer
09-15-2011, 01:39 PM
Thanks John! I more or less have 90% of my impression lined out for this, and seeing the M1816/1822 at #4 made me think it was not a preferred arm. I was looking forward to carrying this weapon at Donelson since I won't get to use it at the Shiloh or Perryville events. My only obstacle right now is a knapsack and overcoat. What to do, what to do. :)

mboyce
09-15-2011, 08:56 PM
I just printed the form, and it will go out in the next few days. I look forward to representing Arkansas.

BrianHicks
09-15-2011, 09:11 PM
Mr. Walsh - form printed and sent in today.
Mr. Hicks - my ancestor was in the 49th, so I will be proud to serve with you in the 48th.

Sir, you are always welcome. We'll Jerry Hughes and his son in the ranks with us. His GGGGrandafather was in the 48thm, and was surrendered at Donelson.

BrianHicks
09-15-2011, 09:17 PM
This is form research Jerry Hughes has been doing:

'I'm going through microfilm for the Military Board and the Adjutant General records to see if I can any specifics on the types of weapons in the Tennessee arsenals in the fall of 1861. I did find some telegraphs to New Orleans inquiring about purchasing 5000 to 6000 percussion hammers for 69 calibre and suitable cones. I also found where they purchased 2000 mess kits for $21, but no description of them. I'll let you know if I find anything."

Which would indicate that there were perhaps 5-6000 Model 16/22s in Tn. Arsenals that were likely designated (or in the process) to be converted to percussion use during the Fall of 1861. With such information, (and lacking any other guidance at this time) I'd like to see .69's as the weapon of choice for the 48th Tn.

dixieflyer
09-15-2011, 09:27 PM
With such information, (and lacking any other guidance at this time) I'd like to see .69's as the weapon of choice for the 48th Tn.

I'm all over that, and have a .69 CS box to go with it. I may pick up another Morrow & sons .69 box though. I cannot imagine a more appropriate box for Donelson than a Nashville-produced box. Wish I still had the one a friend of mine made me years ago.

Daniel
09-15-2011, 11:59 PM
Col. Heiman wrote in his Fort Henry report, "With the exception of the Tenth Tennessee and the Fourth Mississippi these were all new troops , who had just entered the service. They were not drilled, were badly equipped, and very indifferently armed with shot-guns and Tennesee rifles. " He called the 48th Tennessee and the 51st Tennessee "skeleton regiments, containing together not more than 400 men."

Years ago, while looking at the Records of the State of Tennessee Military & Financial Board, I saw a list of equipment which was delivered to Capt. Morgan at Fort Henry on July 4, 1861. I believe this to be Co. C, 10th Tennessee commanded by Captain St. Clair M. Morgan. The were issued 80 flintlocks, 80 cartridge boxes, 80 brush and picks, 160 gun flints, 80 gun slings, 80 waist belts, 8 spring vises, 8 ball screws, 4 saber belts, 84 knapsacks. And remember this is one of the better equipped units.

Dan Stewart

fortdonelsonrelics
09-17-2011, 03:31 PM
Very nice - only up for 2 days and I'm already getting registration forms in the mail !! Momentum is building - thanks to everyone who is supporting this event!

John Walsh

dixieflyer
09-17-2011, 03:54 PM
Our registration forms got printed out yesterday, just awaiting word on who is organizing companies and/or word from those that are. I'm not going to sign up with a company without someone's permission. ;)

"This is going to be GREAT!!" - Flounder

fortdonelsonrelics
09-17-2011, 03:54 PM
At the outbreak of war, Tennessee had in its arsenals:

10,161 Muskets and Rifles (1,680 Percussion - 8,481 Flintlocks) of which 4,300 were unserviceable.
350 Carbines
4 Field Artillery Pieces
(Stanley Horn - Tennessee's War, 1861-1865, 1965 p. 19)
Where The South Lost The War: Kendal Gott - p. 3

John Walsh



This is form research Jerry Hughes has been doing:

'I'm going through microfilm for the Military Board and the Adjutant General records to see if I can any specifics on the types of weapons in the Tennessee arsenals in the fall of 1861. I did find some telegraphs to New Orleans inquiring about purchasing 5000 to 6000 percussion hammers for 69 calibre and suitable cones. I also found where they purchased 2000 mess kits for $21, but no description of them. I'll let you know if I find anything."

Which would indicate that there were perhaps 5-6000 Model 16/22s in Tn. Arsenals that were likely designated (or in the process) to be converted to percussion use during the Fall of 1861. With such information, (and lacking any other guidance at this time) I'd like to see .69's as the weapon of choice for the 48th Tn.

Daniel
09-20-2011, 11:29 PM
This is what I could document regarding the small arms at Fort Henry.
First Brigade – Col. Heiman
10th Tenn Inf. – Flintlock muskets “The best equipped regiment of his command…was armed with old flintlock ‘Tower of London’ muskets that had ‘done the state some service in the War of 1812.”
27th Ala. Inf. – shotguns and bowie knives
48th Tenn Inf. – shotguns and Tennessee rifles

Second Brigade - Col. Joseph Drake
4th Miss. Inf. – unknown
15th Ark. Inf. - unknown
51st Tenn Inf.- shotguns “inefficient arms in the shape of double barreled guns”
3rd Ala Battalion (Gavin) - unknown
Cavalry – Heiman wrote “None of the cavalry had either sabers or pistols, and were only partly armed with double-barreled shot-guns, no other equipments whatever.”

This event will be challenging to us. Not very many of us have shotguns, flintlocks or Tennessee rifles. Also as noted earlier in this thread, even if we did have those types of weapons the park service will allow only precussion muskets for firing demos. Perhaps we could have an "indifferently arm" company with flintlocks, shotguns and Tennessee rifles. I am thinking about carrying my M1816 flintlock at least on the march.

Dan Stewart

dixieflyer
09-21-2011, 08:53 AM
Ahhh, the joys of picking a unit first, and then living with the research results you find out later. :)

Dan, you are right, this is going to be a challenge. I know that researching Donelson and in particular Tenn. units at Donelson has been your baby for many years. So, do we:

- Go with what we have, and ask people to acquire shotguns, rifles, flintlocks, etc.?

- Change the unit(s) portrayed to better fit what people already have in terms of weapons/equipment?

- Just forge ahead with the chosen unit to portray, and carry percussion alteration M1816's, M1842's, Enfields,* etc. anyway and chalk the inaccuracy up to realizing reenacting is an imperfect science/avocation and modern realities and economics demand some accommodation at times?

**Thing is, we know that there were units there with percussion alteration M1816's, etc., it's just a matter of which units were they?

I am curious as to why the ban on flintlocks for public demonstrations? Surely there are other NPS sites having to do with the AR and War of 1812 that do flintlock musket and rifle demos, so I don't think it is an NPS-wide ban.

Thoughts?

Daniel
09-23-2011, 12:52 AM
Warren, My main thought is that I am glad we have good people like John Walsh and company commanders like Brian Hicks making these types of decisions. I am glad I will be a private in the ranks. But you asked me some questions so this is what I think. IMHO I think is impossible to do a correct Fort Henry infantry unit because our weapons are much better than what those units ,that we know about, had. When one account gives the 10th Tenn as the best arm (flintlock musket) unit at Fort Henry then our M1842s look pretty darned good. Most of us living historians lack a shotgun, Tennessee rifle or a Brown Bess. It would be nice to see a whole company with flintlocks or shotguns but that is not going to happen. So going with what we have is probably the best. I do not think anyone should think about going out and buying a shotgun or flintlock for one event. I think everyone should do their best with what they have. And that is what reflected in John's guidlines. Still when I choose a company I will probably ask permission to carry a flintlock to at least get a sense and lend a bit of atmosphere to the Fort Donelson march.

I think there are plenty of opportunities to create a sense of what these units were like even without the correct arms. With the exception of the 10th Tenn and 4th Miss Inf. most of the units at Fort Henry were new units. These units were formed in the December of 1861 and January of 1862. I doubt that there were many band box soldiers. Those were probably pretty well gone by the winter of 61/62. So I think the guidlines are right on the money for frocks and cilvian sack coats. And I like John's mentioning that people will be allowed to use black trimming on trousers and kepis if they want to.

I kind of wonder what regiments the other two companies will represent. The big question that I have about the units at Fort Henry is was the 4th Mississppi like? Having done the 2nd Miss at Manassas I wonder with their brother unit was like. What type of arms and uniforms they had? According to accounts, besides the 10th Tennessee they were the only other unit that was ready for service.

And finally I know the 3rd Tennessee which was at Fort Donelson (not Fort Henry) had percussion muskets.

Dan Stewart

fortdonelsonrelics
09-23-2011, 10:23 AM
The assortment of weapons are one aspect of what makes this campaign so interesting. The 50th Tennessee, which was officially mustered in on December 25th, 1861 and stationed within the fort had several types of weapons - as relflected on a sheet from the Col. On there is listed Mississippi rifles, Flintlocks, Country Rifles, Percussion Muskets, and Shotguns. With the exception of the 10th Tennessee, the 2nd Kentucky and maybe few other units, most likely from Floyd's units, we can say with certainty that they were 90% equiped throughout with different types of weapons. Especially those whose companies would be formed locally, then would muster in at one location for example. Company D (Stewart County, TN) of the 50th would muster in at Fort Donelson during September of 61 - But Company C of that same regiment mustered in during that same month in Montgomery, Alabama, more than likely recieving different types of weapons.

What's even more intriguing is that most of the Federal Army was here with a majority of 2nd and 3rd Class Weapons as well, including large caliber imported weapons.

All in all - as eluded too, in earlier posts, Jerry and I crafted the guidlines to encompass all units represented during the withdrawl from Henry and so that the participant had options. As Mr. Hicks pointed out - he has strongly recommended .69cal for his company. That too allows room. I can tell you first hand the majority of small arms ammunition dug in and around Dover are - .71, .69, .58 Roundballs - .69cal Minnies. Of course other munitions are recovered to many to list here.


John Walsh

Jerry Ross
09-23-2011, 10:28 PM
Fellas,
We have an assortment of weapons to choose from as of right now . We are looking at filling Mr. Hicks company first and then we will start working on the other company. We understand the numbers game and reenactors math equation that goes with it. We don't want too many Chiefs and not enough Indians. There should be about 30 men to a company with a few extras to count for last minute dropouts.

The event is capped at 100 men for infantry. Teamsters and Cavalry will be added beyond the 100 total, but will not overload different government agencies wishes or our logistics. We are hoping the wagons can carry the tents for a hundred men. We don't want anyone with out shelter this time of the year. The weather can get nasty in February.

Flintlocks- I personally hope to see them in the field. Fort Donelson has not worked with them at living history programs and are not comfortable using them for the public demos. Each park is different. I have been working for years to just get horses on the park.

I hope this helps in some way.

Jerry

fortdonelsonrelics
10-14-2011, 01:12 PM
Registrations are coming in - thanks to those who have registered thus far. You will be recieving an email shortly as confirmation of reciept.

John Walsh

Jerry Ross
10-18-2011, 08:05 PM
Here is a cool picture of the Federals view of Fort Henry battle.35570 I found this wood cut while traveling in Springfield,Massachusetts.Enjoy.

VA-Patriot'61
10-25-2011, 05:51 PM
All the discussion about Flintlocks not being allowed to fire during demonstrations at Ft. Donelson had me thinking... I believe, from the numerous NPS sites I've worked with over the years that they would need someone on staff or on lend from another site that has a certification in 18th century/early 19th century blackpowder weapons. The Park Rangers have a school they can attend but there are several levels and time periods each one is focused on.

I can't speak in depth on this but I think that might end up being their biggest concern: Not having a Ranger certified and experienced with Flintlocks. I know it sounds silly but they are usually pretty good about keeping safety up front and inspecting weapons, as we all know from experience. The only way I could think to be able to work towards allowing Flintlocks to fire during the demo is seeing if a Ranger can be "loaned" from an 18th century site that has the certification and experience, never hurts to ask the staff there.

Just a thought,

dixieflyer
10-25-2011, 06:46 PM
Kirby, in speaking with someone this past weekend at Perilous Times, that is indeed the case as I am led to understand it. Fort Donelson does not have someone certified or with experience firing flintlocks. The emphasis at NPS CW sites has always been, naturally enough, on percussion weapons, and their safety program is built around that.
No big deal I say, there should be enough of us there with percussion arms to be able to do a firing demo.

coastaltrash
10-26-2011, 12:24 AM
We ran into this problem when the Independent Rifles, along with Jerry, put on the Living History there in 2006. And while I'm still up in the air about attendance now I will go ahead and say the same thing I said to people back then. Are you there to participate as a member of a military organization, or are you there to walk around with a flintlock. If you're going to better quality events, and the site guidelines say no flintlocks, then help the organizers out and just pack something else in. They also have a certain number of people per ranger than can participate in each firing demo. I think last time it was 15. And of all 4 firing demos we did, I think there were 3 people there to watch, and that was the new Super of the park and his two boys.

Old Reb
10-26-2011, 10:20 AM
February at Donelson usually dictates one to be less concerned about what firearm they are toting but how to free their frozen fingers from said firearm.

Jerry Ross
10-26-2011, 10:32 AM
Thanks fellas, I want us to see all the types of weapons thereat the event. The small part of the demo at the park is firing for the public. If we will have a good mix of weapons I will be happy! Just some of you will not fire at that time.Again thank you for thinking about these concerns and start thinking about staying warm in Feb.

fortdonelsonrelics
10-26-2011, 10:35 AM
To address the flintlock & shotgun issue - yes those can be brought and carried, however, as mentioned percussion muskets will only be allowed by Park Service during firing demonstrations. This is their rule, not mine. Do I think its necessarily a bad one, no.

Regarding the number of men in the firing lines - this has been addressed as well, so there will be no limitation on that.

Also - Fort Donelson has gone through several changes in the last few years with new rangers coming into the park with enthusiasm and ideas. This enthusiasm is what has changed what was going to be just a typical 'living history' event to a now - 'living experience' event (you heard it here first :) ) As many on this forum know and have experience with the NPS, their plan for the 150th activities as a government organization have been more screwed up than I've ever seen. Its gone from a NPS driven plan, down to a regional plan, to in this case, a Park Driven plan. Most of the money has gone to "Signature Events" such as Fort Sumter, Gettysburg, etc. Smaller parks are getting funding for activities, but it pales in comparison to what these other events are getting. This is why is being driven by us for us.

We wanted to put this event together as an opportunity to give the re-enactor a unique experience and shed light on a campaign that often is overlooked by both historians and the NPS (as a whole). As Mr. Hicks mentioned in one of his posts, we want this to be more of an inclusive event rather than exclusive, meaning that we have designed this to be a EBUFU event because we knew the type of living historian on this forum would be the ones to show up rain, sleet, snow, etc. Whether you show up with a flintlock, shotgun, etc it does not matter as long as what you show up in is authentic and within the guidelines (which are pretty broad and represent all of the units that left Henry). As Mr. Hicks added was that we want you to bring the right state of mind. Once dropped off at the 'Henry' location - you will not have access to anything modern, only what you bring in. As event organizers, we can only offer so much of the experience, the rest of it depends on the individual.

We are going to have a good time, and I am personally excited to see all that have registered so far. If you have not done so, I encourage that you get signed up now. Feel free to post questions on here or email myself or Jerry Ross. Thankyou to everyone who is supporting this endeavor whether it be in spirit or in person !!

John Walsh

fortdonelsonrelics
11-05-2011, 06:05 PM
The registrations are trickling in at a steady pace now. Thanks to all who have indicated they are coming - it will be here before you know it !

John Walsh

Jerry Ross
11-09-2011, 10:24 AM
Hey fellas,
Here is the link to the registration form.

Registration Link; http://www.fortdonelsonrelics.com/im...20Donelson.pdf


(http://www.fortdonelsonrelics.com/images/pdfs/Microsoft Word - Registration Withdrawing to Fort Donelson.pdf)

fortdonelsonrelics
11-16-2011, 03:01 PM
Things are picking up - just received 5 more registrations - in the past couple days. Brian Hicks is a recruiting machine!

John Walsh

mboyce
11-16-2011, 08:07 PM
My registration and check are all ready to go out tomorrow. I am really looking forward to this.

Jerry Ross
11-25-2011, 08:26 PM
Hello all,
Just an update about the event. John Walsh and I visited the Thursday night/Friday morning camping spot ,met with Fort Donelson rangers ,discussed the route . Things have really be coming together for this event.

We planned a ride through but a quota hunt in the area this weekend canceled that. We hope to do one in the next few weeks.

The rangers informed us of the author Kendall Gott will be at Fort Donelson the Saturday night of the event weekend. He wrote
Where the South Lost the War: An Analysis of the Fort Henry-Fort Donelson Campaign, February 1862. I think you will enjoy his presentation. Some of his books may be available for purchase at the park that weekend.

Coatsy
11-26-2011, 10:29 AM
Jerry and John, thank you for all of your foot and hoof work in putting this together. I've got a few folks from below our "Gnat Line" who are getting their registrations in soon. I've offered them a ride from Atlanta to the Land that Time Forgot.. I mean LBL.

Jerry Ross
11-26-2011, 05:49 PM
Herb,
Thanks . That means a lot. You know how hard it is to put a event on . we look forward to y'all being there.

fortdonelsonrelics
11-27-2011, 06:31 PM
Just a note -

The Middle Tennessee Civil War Show will be this coming weekend - December 3-4th at the Williamson County Ag Expo Park in Franklin.

Jerry Ross will be on hand at the Fort Donelson Relics tables on Saturday to answer questions and take registrations for the Withdrawing to Fort Donelson Event.

Our tables will be located on the main floor against the wall and we'll have our banner up.

Just a note - we have registrations in from Georgia, MD, Louisiana, and Arkansas just to name a few. If you have recently sent yours in - I have been on the road lately at the Richmond, Va show and then this past weekend at the TMCA show in Franklin - I will get them done and a confirmation email sent to you soon.

Thanks again for those who have shown interest and are talking it up - we will see you in Franklin this weekend.

John Walsh

fortdonelsonrelics
12-05-2011, 11:38 AM
Thankyou to all who stopped by the Fort Donelson Relics table at the Franklin Show. We were very busy on Saturday, but I hope Jerry and I were able to get some of the questions answered and thankyou all for the participation.

We had some more registrations come in and will get them processed this week. I hope everyone enjoyed themselves at the show.

Thanks again,

John Walsh

fortdonelsonrelics
12-15-2011, 10:45 AM
Just a Bump -

15 Days left for early registration - as it jumps up on January 1st.

John Walsh

Johnny Lloyd
12-15-2011, 03:01 PM
Money and registration sent today for Brother Hick's company...

/G\

Herb- taking you up on the ride on the time machine. :)

Coatsy
12-15-2011, 03:24 PM
Johnny, that'll work! I hope you Loooove hip-hop music, because that is how I roll to events.

Johnny Lloyd
12-15-2011, 03:35 PM
Yo, I'm down with that- fo' shizzle.

BrianHicks
12-15-2011, 09:26 PM
Johnny, pleased to have you on the roster!

Jerry Ross
12-23-2011, 11:00 PM
Hello ,
Several of us rode the 5 mile portion of the LBL route. The wagons will be able to go through the whole ride with the Cav and Inf. We might need some help with two difficult places on the trail. There will be several creek crossings. It was cool on the ride today and will be colder (maybe) in February. This will be a good warm up walk for those also going to Shiloh. There will not time rush on either portion of the march other than beating darkness to set up camp if weather is nasty.
Please remember we have the wagons to support us staying dry (Tents) and warm (extra blankets) these will not make much weight on the wagons. There we will need to help them in a place or two or maybe clear the road. The teamster Ronnie Tucker know his mules can handle what ever we put in the wagon.

John Walsh reports that the registrations are coming in . The fee will increase after the 1st of the year.

Coatsy
12-24-2011, 08:10 AM
Jerry, that is great to hear! Help moving wagons? Of course! Some of us who are in Brian's company, helped push Mr. Stark's wagon up some sand ridges at the Piney Woods event in 2009. It was a LOT of running and pushing, but one of the highlights of the event for many of us.

Thanks!

BrianHicks
12-24-2011, 10:02 AM
So far, these are the men registered for my Company:

John Lloyd
Robert Mitchell
Tyler Sneed
Eric Martin
Robert Orrand
Lewis Robinson
Dan Stewart
John Schoendorf
Peter Berezuk
Marvin Boyce
Herb Coats
Michael Comer
Michael Hoover
Houston Dickinson
Warren Dickinson
Jerry Hughes
Jerry Hughes Sr.
Fred Baker
Brett Carr
Tim Phyllis
Kiev Thomason

Jerry Ross
12-27-2011, 10:24 PM
History of Fort Henry and Donelson from Along the Warioto by Ersula Smith Beach
General Pillow at Columbus , writing to the Alabama Committee on November 20th 1861 had reviewed the weakness in Tennessee. Experienced Tennessee troops were in Virginia; those now available were recent recruits, insufficient in numbers and weapons.
She (Tennessee) is not strong enough to sustain unaided the great conflict before us.Our Sister South must come to our support. We will furnish the necessary engineers to lay off the additional works on Tennessee River and superintend their construction and will provide artillery, if Alabama will provide the labor for construction and the troops to garrison the work, and make the river secure against the enemy. But all troops designed for our support must be armed. We can supply them with ammunition and with rifles and shot-guns, and our troops will defend our strongly- fortified positions as effectively as if they had the musket and bayonet , for the bayonet can never be used in intrenched works. If Alabama will furnish the means of constructing these works and the forces to garrison them, with arms, etc.,the troops of that state will be placed in them for the purpose of defending them, thus allowing her to hold the key of the gateway into here territory. ( The TN River would allow Union boats to flow in to AL)
The following day Gen.Tilghman was ordered to take charge of the area around the forts(Henry, Hieman and Donelson ) engineer Lt. Joesph Dixon reported from Fort Donelson to Lieut.Col. Jeremy Gilmer C.S.A. Army chief engineer: I wish you would get the general to give an order to press labor, for it cannot be obtained here in any other way. There are not more than 200 troops here fit for duty; the rest are sick or on leave of absence.

Gilmer at Nashville was facing problems of supplies, for on December 4th he reported to Dixon at Fort Henry :
I will procure the picks, shovels, spades, axes, bars, etc. you need for the in-trenchments, if it is possible to do so; also wheelbarrows, and have them forwarded to you at Fort Henry. It has been decided to send the guns -the 32 pounders -at Clarksville to Donelson and Henry, two to each work. We hope to get otherguns for each place at an early day.

fortdonelsonrelics
12-31-2011, 05:48 PM
Remember - early registration ended today for the event. Registration goes up to $20.00 after tomorrow -

Company Commanders, by next week's end, I will send you a complete list of who you have coming and their emails so that you can followup and coordinate with your men.

Thanks again to everyone who has participated up to this point,

Happy New Year,

John Walsh

fortdonelsonrelics
01-05-2012, 04:39 PM
First of all I want to thank everyone who has registered up to this point and has supported this effort. We had the event numbered right at 100 men and as of early registration, we have fullfilled over half that number, and even today I am getting more registrations in. I am very optimistic that we will field atleast 85% of our goal. With the time of year and type of event we have planned, it is outstanding. Not to mention we have over 12 states represented.

Secondly, I just got off the phone with a representative of Fort Donelson National Battlefield. They are very excited about everyone's enthusiasm. As they put it, this is going to be "THE Event" for the Fort Donelson 150th.

Things that maybe of interest to those who are attending. Kendall Gott, author of "Where the South Lost The War" will be doing a book discussion at 3pm and 6pm at Fort Donelson National Battlefield VC. He has written one of the best books on the campaign and it is now available in paperback (at about $13.00 cheaper than the original hardback was).

Also, the Civil War Preservation Trust has been holding land for quite sometime in the Dover area, the largest parcel is most noted as the "Breakout Area" and is the land in which the most significant land battle occured. Jim Lighthizer of the CWPT has been invited to this event, Saturday the 11th, and as of now looks as if he is coming.

The Governor's office and the State Representatives have also been invited as of yesterday via official letter from FODO and confirmations are pending.

The park has also been in talks with CSPAN and other local and regional media in regards to the 150th acitivities and it is also anticipated that they will be present as well.

I don't want anyone to be concerned that its going to turn into a circus, remember over half the event is going to be non-spectator. However, I do want you to know that what you are doing is very important to a great many people. From the local community, to the National Park, and most importantly to our ancestors.

On behalf of Jerry and myself, I want to again thankyou,

John Walsh

Jerry Ross
01-09-2012, 08:36 PM
Hello all ,
I am not sure if I gave the address for Fort DonelsonThis was copied from the Fort Donelson website


Using a GPS? You can use the following addresses:


Visitor Center: 120 Fort Donelson Road, Dover, TN, 37058



Fort Donelson National Cemetery/ Park headquarters: 174 National Cemetery Road, Dover, TN 37058
Dover Hotel: 101 Petty Street, Dover, TN, 37058

PlaneThe area is served by airports in Nashville and Jackson, Tennessee or Paducah, Kentucky. Car rental services are available.

CarThe park is located in Dover, Tennessee, northwest of Nashville. From Nashville, take I-24W to Clarksville (Exit 4). Take a left on Wilma Rudolph Boulevard, until you reach 101st Airborne Division Pkwy/Hwy 374. Take a right at this intersection. Follow Hwy 374, until you reach Hwy 79. Turn right on Hwy. 79 South. Follow signs to Dover (approximately 30 miles). The visitor center is one mile west of the town.
From Paducah, KY: Take Interstate 24 East to exit 31, and go south on Hwy 453 to Land Between the Lakes (LBL). Follow this road through LBL to US Hwy 79. Take a left on US Hwy 79; the park visitor center is approximately 1.3 miles.
From Murray, KY: Take 641S to Hwy 121. Drive approximately 30 miles on Hwy 121, until you reach Hwy 79 at Paris Landing. Take a left on Hwy 79, and follow signs to the park (approximately 13 miles).

fortdonelsonrelics
01-10-2012, 05:32 PM
All,

I had the last planning meeting with FODO today and everything looks to be in order for a great event. Registration is still open and I am still getting a couple about every day.

If you are sitting on the fence about the event or have questions, please let Jerry Ross or I know. I would hate for you to miss out a unique opportunity such as this.

Thanks again,

John Walsh

Jerry Ross
01-13-2012, 11:25 AM
Fellas,
We are a month out from the event . Two days ago it was at 50+ degree mark and this morning the wind chill factor was 15. This weather pattern was accurate for the battle and might happen again. Come prepared for the weather change.

fortdonelsonrelics
01-15-2012, 11:35 PM
Note - I just deposited tonight, the last big batch of registrations I have received dating back it Nov/Dec.

Also, the issue of the Blue Gray Magazine coming out this week has Fort Henry - Donelson as the featured article,

John Walsh

jessiethepirate
01-16-2012, 06:48 PM
will be sending the reg form out in the next few days, it is still open?

thank you

jesse byrd
breckinridge greys
casey 424 f&am

Jerry Ross
01-16-2012, 08:50 PM
Jesse,
Yes , we are still open for business. Glad to have you .

To everyone,
We have slots left open, but don't delay send in your registration today!

Daniel
01-16-2012, 09:59 PM
Hello John and Jerry,

Do you have any idea where we will be parking?

Dan Stewart

Jerry Ross
01-16-2012, 10:41 PM
Dan,
When you check in at Fort Donelson visitors center they will direct you to parking. They have several paring sites on and near the park. It will depend when you arrive as to which one they put you in. Sorry to be so vague.They will pick you up and transport you to the event site as soon as you finish registering.

Here is the GPS address for the Visitor Center: 120 Fort Donelson Road, Dover, TN, 37058

Daniel
01-17-2012, 11:42 PM
Thank you Jerry. I am looking forward to the event.

Dan Stewart

fortdonelsonrelics
01-18-2012, 12:46 PM
Help Needed -

I have a gentleman who needs a size 15 - 15.5 Brogan. Does anyone out there have used pair for sale?

You can email me at john@fortdonelsonrelics.com

Thanks in advance,

John Walsh

fortdonelsonrelics
01-21-2012, 11:57 AM
Here is a list of registered for the Fort Henry / Donelson Event - This means I have your registration paper and/or payment.

This list does not include the wagon masters.

John Walsh
Jerry Ross
Brian Hicks
Fred Baker
Whit Barr
Peter Beretuk
Bart Boaz
Marvin Boyce
Brett Carr
Brian Chastain
Herb Coats
Michael Comer
Michael Hoover
Houston Dickinson
Warren Dickinson
Chad Gray
Jerry Hughes
Jerry Hughes Sr.
John Lloyd
Eric Martin
Robert Mitchell
Robert Orrand
Tim Phillips
Pete Paolillo
John Raterink
Jason Reinholz
Lewis Robinson
John Schoendorf
Tyler Sneed
Dan Stewart
Kiev Thomason
Steven Brewington
Blake Stewart
J.J. Jacobs
Dustan Milam
Charles Tucker
Shane Persich
James Walker
Cody Persich
Daniel Lonsway
John Baine
Gene Bolin
James Burnett
Casey Counce
Galen Courtney
Craig Courtney
Brandon Curtsinger
Tom Grubbs
Steven Henderson
Bob Herr
Gary Jones
John Prince
Alec Shoulta
Gary Teckenbrock
Zeb Teckenbrock
Bryan Tucker
Benny Watkins
Mark Bridges
Mark Choate
Kerry Gallivan
Ethan Harrington
Ken Knopp
Scott Little
Kenneth Mansell
David Smith
Chris Stewart
Tony Townsend
Jeff Williams
Michael Pierpoint
Kevin Tucker

fortdonelsonrelics
01-28-2012, 12:23 PM
To all those sitting on the fence - we still have spots available for this event and I would recommend getting your registrations in soon. We are in the process of purchasing rations and supplies based on the number we have so far, which is getting close to 80 right now.

This will be a great event -

John Walsh

Jerry Ross
02-04-2012, 10:08 AM
Here is the last event at Fort Donelson 2005.
http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/forum/showthread.php?34980-What-s-the-coldest-you-ve-ever-been-at-an-event/page7

I believe it snowed some too.
I think it will be greener this year. The buttercups have bloomed because of the recent warm weather.The grass is greened up also. But it can still drop 30 degrees over night when a front moves through. You still need to come prepared for cold weather.

We have close to 80 registered. It will be good event no matter the weather.

Ken Knopp
02-04-2012, 11:20 AM
John, forgive me if this has been covered but I could not find it. Is there an emergency contact person and phone number at the park that we can leave here at home/office. I do have a "Dixie" ring tone on my cell phone but not an authentic 1862 version that would pass the guidelines so I would rather not carry it (ha!) Ken R Knopp

fortdonelsonrelics
02-04-2012, 02:14 PM
the Stewart co Sherrifs dept is: (931) 232-8332

The fort Donelson park is: 931-232-5706

John Walsh

fortdonelsonrelics
02-06-2012, 11:55 AM
Attendees / Possible Attendees:

1. This week is the week - Infact, today is the day the Naval Bombardment would begin on Fort Henry. So as the event goes, you will be within days of re-creating the actual Confederate Evacuation.

2. As you can imagine, we are going to be very busy this week. We will do our best to answer phone calls and emails. But site preparation, rations, etc is going to be the focus this week. Most all of your questions can be answered in this thread. The times are the times, and though as the event starts, it will take on a life of its own and there maybe adjustments made. However, when planning your trip to and from, use the times listed in this thread as a guide.

3. I will post a registered list as I have them by Tuesday night - Yes, you can register on site. But I highly recommend that since its probably too late to get us a registration form in the mail, that you shoot us an email to let us know you are coming. Your empty stomach may depend upon it.

4. We will be issuing rations. But feel free to stick a potatoe, a carrot, a turnip, or something extra or small in your haversack. It will help the cause within your company and will add to your experience. Yes, this is early war / winter and the Confederates were dressed and armed as such. But food & supplies were arriving daily, even up to the morning of the Surrender of Donelson (the boat Floyd escaped on had just dropped off troops and supplies hours before).

5. Straw will be available on site at all camp sites. However, keep an eye on the weather. I would not take stock in any forecast prior to Wed.

If I think of anything else - I will post it.

John Walsh

fortdonelsonrelics
02-12-2012, 11:09 AM
I wasn't sure where to initiate an AAR so I'll tack it on to the rest of this thread.

First of all, Jerry Ross and myself would like to personally thank everyone who attended this event. I know Jerry will post something a little later, but I wanted to let all of you that my expectations for this event was more than exceded after it was all said and done. I have a deep appreciation for this campaign, this area, and the people who lived here. For so long the Battles of Forts Henry and Donelson have been under appreciated by historians, authors, and in some cases the NPS (as an organization). This march continued on a legacy that was commemorated long before I was born.

The Event: Many of Brian Hicks company arrived on Thursday night as expected and were transported to the site by the Fort Donelson NPS Staff (here after NPS). We established our base camp near the modern day Fort Henry Trail head that is about 1/4 mile from the outer works of the original fort. The weather was clear and brisk with a full moon shining brightly. Major Jerry Ross took on the duty of cooking rations and preparing the meals for the next days march as our orders were to evacuate to Fort Donelson. By Thursday night, most all of the 48th was present under the command of Brian Hicks, half of our cavalry command (9th Tn Cav) was present, our commisary wagon and supplies and all command staff was present for the night.

By Friday morning, more troops would arrive as the remainder of the 9th Tn Cav would arrive. We also received reinforcements in the form of infantry when approximately 20 men of the Kentucky Company under the command of Daniel Lonsway arrived. The weather called for rain most of the day with temps in the mid 30's - 40's, however with heavy prayer, the weather held off and remained overcast and cool. We formed the column and marched back to the actual site of Fort Henry (as close as we could get) and ran into a modern historian, Kendal Gott, who gave the men his thoughts on what we were doing and its significance. We then marched to the shoreline of the Tennessee River and gazed across to see Fort Heiman. Captain Walsh then proceded to establish the historical context and the battle that ensued at Fort Henry. We then received orders to evacuate Fort Henry and to save the infantry column to Fort Donelson. By approximately 10:30am we were off. It was not long before, we noticed that Gantt's cavalry had abandoned us and literally ran over us headed to Fort Donelson. So the infantry was left on its own in fairly unknown country. As a precaution, we sent the commisary wagon off on its own in what we knew was a friendly route.

As the column under the command of Major Jerry Ross moved towards Donelson. We had our front and rear gaurds posted as well as flankers in the event of contact with the enemy. It would be about 2 miles in when elements of the 4th Illinois Cavalry would attack our front and we rushed the Kentucky company to deploy skirmishers and rushed across the creek as not to get bottle necked on the bridge there. The 48th Tenn soon was deployed in support. The cavalry was pushed back fairly quickly as they appeared not to be in full force and only testing our lines. The Kentucky Company suffered one casualty.

We continued the march and soon other elements of the 4th Ill Cav was to our rear attacking our rear guard. This harrassment from the enemy's cavalry continued throughout the march with a few of our guys getting captured. However, we remained infront of the cavalry from that point on. The infantry continued to leap frog continually towards Fort Donelson in attack after attack by the enemy. This continued for nearly 4-5hours until the Union Cavalry were soon not to be found. Knowing that the men were exhausted from fighting so gallantly and the weather turning bad, literally starting to sleet. We established a camp near a creek so that the men and horses could be watered. It was there our wagon arrived, it had apparently broke down and required a field repair which was accomplished. The command staff is personally grateful for their initiative to get it fixed and continue with us.

By Friday night our Confederate Cavalry arrived seemingly unaware that we had been attacked and what we had gone through that day. Major Ross was not pleased by their actions. We established camp about 5.4 miles from Fort Donelson near a creek on a hill. That night the wind blew hard and the temperature dropped suddingly to near the mid teens. Some of the men suffered but all remained in good spirits.

Saturday morning, the entire column assembled, we continued our march to Fort Donelson. Before crossing the creek, elements of the 48th Tennessee built a cordory road across it to keep the men's already frozen feet from suffering anymore. Within an hour, we were within the outer population of Dover. We continued down the main road leading into Dover and as we passed many of the local residents came out to cheer us on and waiving flags and hankies to us. Knowing that we were the reinforcements arriving from Fort Henry. Once in town we turned east-north east and marched to the Fort. Upon arriving there, the local towns people gathered in great numbers. Many of them wanting news of what had happened at Fort Henry and the result and condition of their relatives. Once secured in the outer works of the Fort, we re-issued the Battalion's equipment. Because of their arrival and the re-organizing of the units at Donelson, they were all sent to another portion of the line and left the main body of the Fort. Prior to leaving, the 48th Tennessee graciously went and fired a salute for the crowd that had gathered and we all were appreciative of that.

I know I probably missed some of the things during the weekend, but I wanted to leave room for comments from the men who were there.

When the column arrived to the Fort, there were representatives from South East Region of the NPS, Dept of Agriculture - Forrestry, LBL, City and County, including a large crowd of onlookers. Many of the folks who were there remembered the 100th anniversary of the battle and the celebration at that time in which schools were let out, people out of work and hundreds upon hundreds were in attendance. This was the largest and most heavily organized event since that time. Infact, one of the guys making the march was 13 years old at the event.

I know many of you were tired and ready to leave Dover and for very good reason (sore feet being one). However, the affect you all have left on this community and park will remain here for many years to come. As you know there was a film crew on site, hired by the NPS, and our efforts on those days have been recorded for generations to come. I was touched by some of the men in the ranks had small copies of their ancestors pictures that had actually made the march, with them on their person.

I have rambled on enough, I know many of you will have personal stories and perspectives on things I missed, but please know that I am personally grateful to each and every one of you and it will be something that I will remember for the rest of my life.

John Walsh

Johnny Lloyd
02-12-2012, 07:14 PM
Was cold, tired, and had blisters... I HAD A BLAST!

Thanks again to all inolved to make the weekend a special one.

PetePaolillo
02-12-2012, 08:46 PM
Mr. Walsh,
My thanks and hats off to you, Jerry Ross and the entire organizational staff. You guys were great. From the moment we arrived at the visitors center we were greeted with smiles and appreciation from the NPS staff and Rangers. Everything was smooth at check in and the shuttles to the parking and camping area went very smooth. There was plenty of rations, water, straw and firewood provided the men. With the extreme temps we had that was a Godsend. I got to see snow and sleet for the first time in 20 years...lol Now I know why I moved to Florida. Unfortunately it followed me home as we are having a hard freeze warning here tonight. I traveled all the way from Brooksville Florida and it was well worth every mile and more. That was one of the better events I have been too in my short time in the CPH hobby. It was a well run tactical scenario coinciding with an awesome but demanding historical March. It was great to be a part of this historic event. It will forever be a memorable one.

I really feel that all of the men and animals responded to the duty asked of them and really brought great work ethic, impressions and a great attitude. My hat is off to the Men of the Illinois Cavalry that really tested our mettle. I was part of that rear guard action that was constantly getting harassed by those Yankee Horsemen. Captain Hicks and I were very close to being overrun by those Troopers at one ppint. Thankfully my pumpkin slinger was reliable when I needed her as it was just enough to scare them off and prevent us from being captured.

To the men of the wagon train, Cam Stinnett and the Mule Drivers. You guys were amazing. After finding out that the wagon broke its tongue and you all repaired it out in the field using a tree must have been a real period moment that was quite difficult on you guys. The men of the TN and KY units were very thankful to see the wagon with our supplies. We would have been some very hungry and sore sots had you all not come through. Thanks for the amazing efforts.

Captain Brian Hicks, Lt. Pete Berezuk, Sgt Johnny Lloyd, Sgt Jerry Hughes, Cpl Fred Baker; your leadership, tactical descion making and care of your men was above and beyond what any soldier could ask for. We were in very good hands and I applaud you all for your efforts.
To all my comrades in arms. You were some tough as nails soldiers. We stayed positive and in good spirits despite conditions and the work ahead. I am proud to have served with all of you. I made made new friends and also put many more names to faces again. Such a great expierence. My humble thanks.

Private Pete Paolillo, 48th TN- Fort Donelson

P.S. Brian Thanks for letting us shower and change at your place.Johnny Thanks so much to you and Joni for your hospitality. I enjoyed traveling with you John. Thanks for letting me crash at your place as well. I had a blast.
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Here is a pic of myself and Sgt Lloyd after the event. Yes I am wearing two coats because I was cold LOL. If anyone has the photo of the company please post it. Thanks

Ken Knopp
02-12-2012, 09:00 PM
Great event!! On top of the terrain and 150th commemoration, the weather conditions alone made it a wonderfully realistic, authentic experience. Highlight for me was two occasions....

First, with the wagon Friday morning..... we snapped the wagon tongue as we came down the road late morning Friday which broke us down for several hours. Teamster Ronnie Tucker (literally, one of the very few in this country today with real mule/teamster skill sets) and Cam Stinnet immediately grabbed an axe and went into the woods and cut another one. Now this may sound quite simple and even easy but, let me tell you- it was not just any tree but a hard wood “selected” to approximate the proper size and tapering width of the wagon tongue. Then, using the broad ax Tucker shaped the ends and the places where we fit, drilled and re-attached the iron trace chain hardware and bolts from the old tongue onto the new one. After a few hours and a little help from the NPS (they torched off the rusted bolts on the old hardware) we had it and the mules back on the wagon and in motion. Gent’s, that’s as real as it gets! Later the next morning we took the wrong road and had to travel a ways before we found a place to turn around and not without having to chop another tree down in order to make the mules turn in the woods. All in all, an incredibly realistic experience of the trials and tribulation of a CW wagon train with a traveling army!!

Second: The wagon & the cavalry arriving into camp at dark and having to establish camp on a hillside, unload the rations, un-hitch, unsaddle, stretch picket lines, feed & care for the horses & mules, build fires, eat and finally lay down (with NO tents!)- all in the dark under sleeting rain, snow cold conditions. Then, arising early the next morning doing it all again in reverse and marching out in the bitter cold. Some of you infantry boys just have no idea.......

IMHO,....Special Recognition to....

The Cavalry: For bringing two complete impressions (Federal and Confederate) including saddles, bridles, weapons, clothing, accoutrements, etc. and making the changes back and forth from CS to US on Friday morning then back to CS Friday night. All the while making sure the two sets of tack, equipment and uniforms made it from one camp to the next. Big effort!

Ronnie Tucker for his amazing mule skinner talents. Folks, most of us today have no idea what a treat this was or how rare and unique this display was to behold. Not only did Ronnie show us a taste of the lost art of mule skinning but he did it using the “correct” CW method by sitting on the wheel team and using a jerk line to control the team. I am not exaggerating this ... “no- one” in reenacting today does wagon teams this way! Most do it the “Hollywood way” using reins “in hand” from the wagon box but that is not the way most CW quartermaster wagon trains operated. Course, I must say that his authentic “cursing” the mules and everyone around him throughout the event only added to the authentic ambiance and his mule skinner mystic (ha!!)

Cameron Stinnet: For use of his wagon and his strong back, patience and incredibly hard work. For our combined benefit, Cam loaded and unloaded that wagon no less than a dozen times from my observation. Rations, baggage, all of it! He also ran along side the wagon (literally) on hills working the brake, cut trees and helped issue rations. He did a lot of heavy lifting and rarely took a rest. Most of you missed it but everyone owes him a huge thanks!

And finally,.......John Walsh & Jerry Ross: For putting all of this together. Very hard work, lots or pre-event effort and real time organization. Jerry worked like a beaver most of the day and night Thursday night loading and unloading rations, cooking rations etc. Thank you John and Jerry for your planning and hard work to make this an incredibly real experience while commemorating this often overlooked campaign.


A fine, very authentic event for those that attended and a real missed opportunity for those of you that weakened or had to miss it.


Ken R Knopp
"Apprentice" Mule skinner

Jerry Ross
02-12-2012, 09:49 PM
This is a short note about the weekend.

I was allowed the privilege of leading the men who can keep the high standards of the Authentic Campaigner. They did not just talk about doing it. They did it !

There were many who came that took their role serious from privates,mule driver,cavalry, infantry,captains, lieutenants,sergeants and a wagon master.The weather was tough, terrain was rough, but the men were tougher.

It was an honor to lead you.

Now I need to take some more aspirin to help me walk.

Choatecav
02-12-2012, 11:02 PM
Ken "the wordsmith" Knopp captured the essence of the event much better than I can, so I won't repeat his words, but it was a weekend of extremes and with experiencing sun, rain, sleet, snow, high winds and a temperature on Fri nite/Sat morn that hit 16 degrees, we got a small taste of what our ancestors (I had four that were there) endured 150 years ago.

I do want to say that from a cavalry perspective we were incredibly impressed with the tactics and execution of same by the infantry. And they (the infantry) moved incredibly fast. We traveled at pretty good clips to set up vantage points only to have the "foot cavalry" arrive before we expected. Great Job, fellas (tremendous field command by Brian Hicks).

I will close with my sincere thanks and appreciation to John Walsh and Jerry Ross for the unbelievable amount of work that they did before and during the event. I know how hard that is and they both did an incredible job preparing and executing this one.

Now, I'm gonna grab some of those aspirin that Jerry was speaking of.......................

thanks,

Mark

Pvt_Sullivan
02-13-2012, 09:38 AM
I had fun, how 'bout you?

I could go and thank everyone again for the effort put it. Others have written it out already so I'm going to wax a bit philosphical.

The team pulled together. I think a combination of the feared/expected/realized weather conditions caused each man and animal to husband their courage and strength for the ordeal and to put that effort toward the common goal. The animals pulled and carried, the horsemen and wagonners tended their mounts and teams, the officers and non-commissioned officers led and the men cheerfully and immediately performed each duty asked of them.

I've had the pleasure of working with a number of fine groups at various events. "Withdrawing to Fort Donelson" will be in the top tier of my memories. Marching each step of the 14 miles and living the full experience the 48th Tennessee is a memory I will cherish and value. I offer my sincere thanks to everyone from the organizers, through the leaders and to each private soldier. Without each of you it would not have been the same event or as great an experience.

I'll be ready for the next long, hard march. Just let me know when it is!

fortdonelsonrelics
02-13-2012, 12:25 PM
I'm not sure if I had made it clear as to the significance of our arrival time to Fort Donelson, but this is what was going on just minutes before we arrived. We were going to stop at the VC before marching all the way in, but as Jerry and I were riding up, the signing had just been completed and the CWPT, FODO Admin Staff, and Reg Asst Director of the Southeast Region of the NPS were walking out as we rode / marched by.

http://www.civilwar.org/aboutus/news/news-releases/2012-news/fort-donelson-transfer.html

A fitting ending to a great day !!!

John Walsh

Johnny Lloyd
02-13-2012, 04:12 PM
Honestly, my feet haven't been that sore since Ft. Benning and OCS in the field for a couple of weeks.

Our 48th TN by-section 'leapfrogging' Brian Hicks did was masterful. We covered our column rear and kept the blue horsemen at bay whilst reloading. Great teamwork by all in understanding what our leadership wanted to happen so quickly. In real life, we would have been able to hold them off, I think.

Feet still healing... but my heart feels the pride no matter what. ;)

Jerry Ross
02-13-2012, 04:17 PM
http://www.theleafchronicle.com/article/20120212/NEWS01/302120026/March-from-Forth-Henry-to-Fort-Donelson-recreated?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE (http://www.theleafchronicle.com/article/20120212/NEWS01/302120026/March-from-Forth-Henry-to-Fort-Donelson-recreated?odyssey=tab%7ctopnews%7ctext%7cFRONTPAGE )

Enjoy this link to some photos.

Mark Susnis
02-13-2012, 07:22 PM
This is the third event I have participated in at Land Between the Lakes (Wood Gathering Detail, Backwaters, and Withdrawing to Donelson) and the first as CS infantry that interpreted Fort Henry / Fort Donelson in February 1862. This was an awesome opportunity to execute an early war event on the actual ground on the 150th anniversary. I typically enjoy events that are physically and mentally demanding and this was no exception. Some of us had never served before but have been to similar events and understood the importance of fieldcraft and working together as a unit. These skills and teamwork proved very important considering the small amount of daylight we had on Friday night upon reaching the bivouac site and the onset of a cold night. Getting fires, shelters, and hot food prepared in an expeditious manner ensured that all would survive a night which was later revealed to be 15 degrees with the windchill. Thankfully we had the mule drawn wagon available to haul extra blankets, overcoats, and tentage. The mule drawn wagon added so much to the period experience especially on Saturday a.m. as our infantry column trudged up and down the frozen hills behind the wagon team. The organizers did an outstanding job by routing us to the site of Fort Henry on Friday a.m. to hear author Kendall Gott speak about the events that transpired at Fort Henry followed by a seven mile march and engagements with the Federal cavalry nipping at our heels. Many thanks to the guys that put this together. Definitely enjoyed this one!

Mark Susnis

mboyce
02-13-2012, 07:45 PM
I had a great experience at this event. It was good meeting new people and marching on the same ground the original cast marched. I greatly appreciated that wagon, so a huge THANK YOU to the teamsters and mules. My feet survived without any blisters, but I think that it took a few hours in the warm car to get my toes and fingers to thaw completely.

fortdonelsonrelics
02-13-2012, 09:28 PM
Here is a link to some pics that were taken by the local paper as we made it to the Fort- proud to serve with all of you. You all looked great.

http://www.theleafchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=DA&Dato=20120213&Kategori=PHOTOGALLERIES&Lopenr=302130031&Ref=PH

John Walsh

Jerry Ross
02-16-2012, 11:20 AM
Lost and Found
Lost
Ronnie Tucker lost a old tattered rubber poncho was in Cameron and his wagon.
Jerry Ross lost a Federal overcoat it was in with extra gear for Cavalry to swap over on Friday AM.Red lining and white threaded button holes

Found two items please contact John or myself to describe items.

Jerry Ross
02-17-2012, 12:40 PM
Fellas ,
One more item to add the list of missing equipment.

Gene Bolin lost a hatchet with his name on it.

Thanks Jerry

csuniforms
02-18-2012, 09:05 AM
It is with envy and delight I write to you all. I am so sorry I could not be there with you in person, but I was in spirit. Fort Donelson and its history is a continuing work and there are as many stories here at Fort Donelson as there are at Gettysburg. In a diary of a member of the 46th Illinois, the night before the surrender he stated to keep the men from freezing they built huge bonfires and the soldiers walked round and round in a group-- trading spaces to get closer to the fire all night long! Keep up the good work and it looks like you were really cold---- but so were the originals.

CSuniforms
Tom Arliskas

Daniel
03-03-2012, 08:11 AM
Today C-SPAN American History Channel is suppose to air the talk that Kendall D. Gott, author of "Where the South Lost the War" gave as part of the 150th Fort Donelson events. I do not get CSPAN 3 but probably you can see it at the website. Gott is the guy who gave a brief talk to us at the Fort Henry site.

Dan Stewart

mboyce
05-04-2012, 08:31 PM
I received a pleasant surprise from the National Park Service today. It consisted of a thank you letter from the superintendent of Ft. Donelson and a challenge coin for the Park / Sesquicentennial. I will carry it proudly!

fortdonelsonrelics
05-11-2012, 09:44 AM
I got mine the other day, very nice indeed. Had an idea they were coming, but didn't know when.

If anyone who was there didn't get one, please let me know.

John Walsh

PetePaolillo
05-11-2012, 08:59 PM
I received mine. Very nice gesture. I was pleasantly surprised at the mailbox for a change. Thanks to the Park Service and the Ft Donelson staff. This event will always be a very fond memory for me. Thanks.

Cameron
05-22-2012, 10:01 AM
Guys

This is a long shot, I know. However, regarding the lost and found. I just realized I did, indeed, lose something at the Donelson event. I didn't realize it until just a few days ago. I lost or perhaps it was mistakenly picked up...a large tent fly. This was a borrowed item and I would love to get it back. It was brought to simply tarp the load in the wagon (should it have been required). Just a plain big canvas tent fly with some rope attached here and there and brass grommets.

If anyone knows its whereabouts I would be most appreciative.

Thanks

Choatecav
05-22-2012, 12:18 PM
Gentlemen,

Cameron worked his rear end off on this event providing and helping with the wagon which added a lot and was so great to have. Let's everyone check extra hard for that tent fly in our pile of stuff. We certainly don't want Cameron to incurr any more out-of-pocket expense than he already has.

thanks,
Mark

Cameron
05-23-2012, 09:59 PM
Mark, Thank you for the kind words. I am happy to pass along John Walsh had it in safe keeping. I just didn't happen to miss it until recently

Thanks Jerry Ross and John Walsh as well

Matt Woodburn
05-24-2012, 12:24 PM
Bro. Cam,

I think I might have your fly. It came home with me in the UHaul from Shiloh. Call me tonight and I'll get it out to describe.