View Full Version : Chickamauga, Kershaw's Birgade
elcid01
05-03-2012, 01:06 AM
Gents,
The organizers of the 15th Iowa at Shiloh, 4th Texas at Antietam (Maryland my Maryland) and 2nd Mississippi at Manassas are currently working on a Chickamauga regimental effort. This will portray a brigade in Longstreets Corps from the ANV. We are working with Wambaugh on the necessary materials for the Blue-Grey English army cloth purchase.
Most of the companies of the regiment have been formed but this is a heads up to all.
The brigade impression will be determined when we find out from the event organizers the senerios being depicted at the event. Right now we are between Kershaws and Laws brigades. like at Manassas we are working with others to form other regiments in the brigade we depict. Yes we stand the chance to be in a full 1-2 regiment brigade.
Uniform requirements are being hashed out with the main intent being the accounts of the Corps sent from the east and second factor being minimal impact to the participants in the form of monetary.
Main focus being the BG English Army Cloth RD II or III Jacket which is being worked through vendors in a cost effective manner, the other details of uniformity are up to the individual companies to determine the extent they wish. No Blue issue CS trousers or BG Kersey caps are mandated, .....again this is on the commanders as we have asked them to make the decision on the uniform. We have set some conditions on the impression that will achieve the uniform look spoken in the accounts of the Eastern Brigades but also meeting our intent of minimal impact to our finances.
I also know that some already have the desired impression and this is why we have made the decision as to the extent of impression on the commanders.
As for equipment we are going along with above and making it on the commanders as to knapsacks, canteens, bedrolls ect. The only mandate is boxes on belts (per accounts) and blackened accouterments (per accounts). These are all obtainable at minimal impact to the men.
My intent is NOT to get into the weeds of impression or intent.. This is just a heads up that we a talking this effort.
Also please reach out to your POCs for the companies on the details as I sent this to them last week.
Cheers
Skip
chadwick
05-03-2012, 12:34 PM
Thanks for the update, Skip. This is one event that we are very much looking forward to.
poilu1917
05-03-2012, 01:06 PM
Skip,
Thanks for the heads up. I was already looking into purchasing the English cloth for something like this. Hopefully this announcement will motivate Charlie to make another run of his #K2CS sooner rather than later as he is currently sold out. Can't wait!
elcid01
05-03-2012, 10:44 PM
Jon,
Wambaugh is looking to get that material made, they are in talks with the mill now with more info to be posted by them shortly
tenfed1861
05-04-2012, 12:29 AM
Is this for the park?
Silas
05-04-2012, 12:49 AM
No. This thread is in the Adjunct folder and concerns the mainscream event with the Blue/Gray Alliance.
poilu1917
05-04-2012, 01:21 AM
Skip,
Thanks for the heads up on Wambaugh possibly making a run of the trouser material.
Virginia Rifle
05-04-2012, 01:23 PM
Very interesting project,
BUT: I think the "clothing guidelines" shall be correct. The RD IIIs are definitily an 64 product.
coastaltrash
05-04-2012, 01:45 PM
Not to but in on this thread, but Alexander, a non descript Blue Gray kersey jacket are not just 1864 items. I'm sure, as with all things related to Skip and South Carolina, it will be heavily researched. Fear not.
Alexander Vasquez
05-04-2012, 02:03 PM
I can't in good conscience go to Chickamauga as ANV; my 3x great grandfather's regiment (35th IL) was routed by Longstreet's boys there. Apparently they were the last regiment to try to march to correct the placement error that made the gap in the Union lines and got hit rear and flank at the same time, then broke and ran. He lived to get shot in the face at Mission. Ridge.
That being said, any ideas or rumblings about a Federal adjunct?
Alexander Vasquez
Formerly of Co. C, 15 IA
Dan Wambaugh
05-04-2012, 02:44 PM
Folks,
Since I've already received a couple of messages concerning our kersey project I figured I would disseminate all of the facts right here so everyone is on the same page. Whereas I normally don't like to sell or even advertise for a product until it is ready to ship, I can see that won't be the case with this one and so I'll share with you all what little information there is up to now (and this will also allow me to direct email inquiries to this thread.)
In bullet points:
-We are doing a run of English Army Cloth that will be based on the material in a surviving jacket.
-There will be plenty of fabric to go around.
-This will be a one-time run and not something we plan to stock indefinitely.
-We will be offering a variety of ways to get a jacket from this fabric (yardage, kits, blanks, finished jackets.)
-We plan to have the fabric on hand about one year out from the event.
-We may take pre-orders once we have everything set in stone with the mill (we are at a very early point in the process.)
-Brian is planning some limited runs of royal blue kersey for trousers. Once we have more information about that we will make announcements.
-And as information about this run becomes available we will keep everyone informed.
That's all the news that's fit to print!
FloridaConscript
05-04-2012, 04:13 PM
What, Rock Benning's boys no longer in the runnin'? :)
Johnny Lloyd
05-04-2012, 04:41 PM
Here to support in any way I can... rather do this one than Goofysburg 150th. ;)
GenuineInformation
05-04-2012, 06:05 PM
On board for this!
Pious Jeems
05-04-2012, 06:49 PM
Ready for Chickamauga, had an ancestor in 43rd Alabama Inf. but either way can't wait. Getting ready for Maryland My Maryland.
elcid01
05-04-2012, 11:19 PM
Thanks Dan for pushing some of the teaser info about the material.
Bryant trying to narrow it down to Law's or Kershaw's ( many Citadel Grads commanding in those Brigades...)
John Legg
05-05-2012, 12:54 AM
Looking forward to this!
elcid01
05-10-2012, 12:26 AM
We will be pushing out the companies soon but we are pretty much filled up. Thanks for all the enthusiasm on this endeavor.
I will post the event senerios when I am informed by the event staff, this in turn will drive which ANV Brigade we portray. As it stands it will be between Kershaws Brigade of SC and Laws Alabamians. Research and accounts show they were issued similar uniforms and equipment. Please by all means begin to work on your impression by company as you see fit.
Thanks again!
Dbackfed
05-10-2012, 09:50 AM
Awesome brigades there! I loved using them in the Talonsoft computer games. They were some of the best fighting units in the ANV.
I will post the event senerios when I am informed by the event staff, this in turn will drive which ANV Brigade we portray. As it stands it will be between Kershaws Brigade of SC and Laws Alabamians.
Archie R. Lib
05-10-2012, 11:16 AM
Been waiting for this one...
dixieflyer
05-10-2012, 03:53 PM
"We will be pushing out the companies soon but we are pretty much filled up. Thanks for all the enthusiasm on this endeavor."
So, am I to read this as all of the slots are filled and we can't sign up for the event?
Coatsy
05-10-2012, 04:49 PM
Warren, this is in regards to groups/messes FORMING companies, not filling them out with individuals. The BGA has not even opened registration for this event. When the time comes for registration to begin, the Informational Overload will commence all over the place.
johnnyreb43nc
05-10-2012, 05:59 PM
Skip and Pards,
Sounds like it will be a great event to come over the pond for,
I'll try and get a few others over like we did at Shiloh.
Cheers,
J.T.
Jason Tailford
Lazy Jacks Mess
Liberty Rifles .
dixieflyer
05-10-2012, 11:22 PM
Warren, this is in regards to groups/messes FORMING companies, not filling them out with individuals. The BGA has not even opened registration for this event. When the time comes for registration to begin, the Informational Overload will commence all over the place.
OK, that makes more sense. The way I read it . . . well, I got corn-fused!
If y'all end up doing Law's Brigade, I may have to get in on this. My uncle was KIA with the 4th Alabama in WWII, and I served with the 4th Ala. in the late 80's. I had a number of guys in my company who could trace their family history through that regiment through every conflict back to the CW.
elcid01
06-04-2012, 01:08 PM
Just a update where we stand on this:
Chis Anders will be pulling from his division to form the 3rd SC Battalion. With this there will be 2 full strength units represented from Kershaws Brigade.
Still deciding on which regiment we will portray. Between 3rd SC Regiment and 2nd SC Regiment. Lots of info out there on both.
Steve Ewing will continue as our ADJ for this event!
WWW will be putting out more info about the Kersey Jackets when they updates
Currently 9 of 10 companies filled!
Daniel
06-04-2012, 09:29 PM
Hello Skip,
Do you know if registration for Chickamauga yet? You mentioned, I think, that 9 out of 10 companies were filled? I hope I have not missed the boat on Chickamauga.
Dan Stewart
WIG/Old Guard
Coatsy
06-04-2012, 11:25 PM
Dan, again from my earlier post: "this is in regards to groups/messes FORMING companies, not filling them out with individuals. The BGA has not even opened registration for this event. When the time comes for registration to begin, the Informational Overload will commence all over the place."
Registration has not opened yet. If it was open, I would have sent my funds in already. As a fellow WIG member (the Armory Guards company), The Old Guard has a company in this effort. Just ask Cam Stinnett or Nate Petersburg for more info.
Daniel
06-05-2012, 09:42 PM
Herb, Thank you for the info.
Dan Stewart
Pious Jeems
06-06-2012, 12:05 AM
Dan, were on it, if you have not received something from Nat, Cam or Eric you will. Been busy and at first thought I missed out on this, but then reread the post and saw my error. It will be another great event!
Daniel
06-06-2012, 07:47 PM
Dean, thank you. I read the post in haste and misread it. I look forward to marching with ya'll again.
Dan Stewart
WIG/Old Guard
elcid01
07-22-2012, 07:08 PM
2nd SC regiment and the 3rd SC Battalion will be represented at this event. Again the same gentlemen who brought you 15th Iowa, 4th Tx and 2nd Mississippi regiments are gathering to put this on. With a addition of Chris Anders and his Southern Division messes to form the 3rd SC Battalion.
Just a update
Next will be some of the vendor information about the BG kersey and jacket assembly options to fit all budgets.
Cheers
Skip
Rufus
11-04-2012, 05:40 PM
I thought this might be of interest to some. This flag recently sold at auction for $58,650 I'm not sure who bought it though. There was information that came with it, but it says the flag was brought home from Appomattox and the 2nd surrendered in NC.
HISTORIC ANV BATTLE FLAG OF THE 2ND SC, PALMETTO REGIMENT. This battle flag from direct family decent of Samuel Gaillard Pinckney who served in this regiment through the end of the war and saved the flag from surrender. A family document accompanying this flag states that in the last battle of Lee's Army, Sailor's Creek April 6, 1865, that Pinckney took this flag from the 2nd of two killed color bearers and carried it proudly during the remainder of the battle. Lee would surrender his forces three days later and Pinckney would be taken prisoner but rather than surrender the flag he took it off the staff and tied it around his waist. After the surrender and end of open hostilities, Pinckney returned home with the flag and became the custodian of the colors until his death. This flag has been passed down through the family and will finally be given a new custodian and hopefully permanent place of honor with it's sale. This flag was on display at the Citadel where Pinckney was a cadet at the beginning of the war. This flag would have been donated to the Citadel museum in Charleston but since no guarantee of permanent display could be offered by this grand southern institution the family has elected to sell it. There is an in depth report from flag historian Greg Biggs accompanying this flag along with genealogy and documents of provenance from family. Note that Pickney's regiment, according to history, was with Johnson's Army of TN at wars end in NC & not VA. Family history may be wrong - regardless, this is a wonderful flag. PROVENANCE: Samuel G. Pinckney, G. Pinckney Darby and family. CONDITION: This flag is in overall very good condition measuring 48 x 48-1/4" with 2-1/4" canvas hoist with 3 hand sewn whipped eyelets which the top and bottom ones are ripped as can be seen in photos. Configuration of this flag with 3-1/4" hand sewn stars is consistent with flags issued just after the battle of Chancellorsville. Colors on flag are very good as can be seen on photos with staining and soiling consistent with hard use. There are possibly 20 holes in flag consistent with battlefield damage from projectiles such as mine balls & shell fragments. Flag is mostly intact with sewing loose on edging in several areas especially top quadrant at fly. Flag retains 9 of it's orig stars with the others being apparently souvenired but halos of the dbl applique stars still visible as can be seen in photos. There is 20" long by 4" tapering polished cotton strip retaining the words "2nd Regiment, Kershaw's Brigade" now laid in top quadrant of flag being now unattached. There is a straight pin still attached to hoist which possibly held this identifying strip of cloth in place during it's use. 4-45673 JS89 (50,000-100,000) [sale: Gun Fall 12]
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BenjaminLDavis
11-04-2012, 07:43 PM
Starting I believe next week, I have to commit to vacation weeks for all of 2013. I am guessing this event will be the weekend of Sept. 22, thereabouts, can you tell me if this is correct so I take the right week of vacation? Thanks.
Rufus
11-04-2012, 08:10 PM
http://www.150thanniversarychickamauga.com/
BenjaminLDavis
11-07-2012, 02:56 AM
Thank you most kindly, sir.
I <3 Breastworks
12-13-2012, 08:54 AM
Skip! Stoked on Kershaw's Brigade!
elcid01
12-18-2012, 05:52 PM
Seems to be quite a bit of interest in this effort. Here are some of the details:
We will have 2 regiments fully represented at this event. They are:
2nd SC regiment under Mr Brian Hicks. Their companies are filled
3rd SC Battalion under Mr Chris Anders
We will have a working Brigade staff with the documented numbers Gen Kershaw had, and a fully functioning Brigade level commissary under Bill Birney and Joe Caridi.
As everyone already knows the impression is the BG Kersey RD jacket. Optional are the issue blue trousers and BG Kersey Kepi. English or ANV accouterments are preferred. The returns have 50/50 of soldiers issued knapsacks. Weapon of choice is the p53.
All company commanders for the 2nd are notified of the details. The next info to put out is our registration plan. More than likely we will have everyone register on the event site and for the "adjunct" we will keep tabs by those who have payed ration money. Rations will be 15$ for this and I trust you all know we will have your experience in mind for this amount of $.
The Adjutant of the 2nd and the commander will put out more details of their plan for the rations and registrations.
Thanks gents!
Skip
Jim of The SRR
12-18-2012, 05:59 PM
SCAR is looking forward to having a company in the 2nd SC.
Thanks for the update and info,
Jim Butler
SCAR
Strawfoot
12-18-2012, 11:20 PM
Still concerned about force ratios these days Jim?
Just kidding. You guys are going to have a blast I am sure...
Coatsy
12-19-2012, 11:26 AM
Skip, I spoke to the AG guys, and Brian Hicks the other day about this, we are definitely ready for this one.
creed1939
12-19-2012, 11:36 AM
How does one figure out a CO to apply to? Registration is open but I do not know who to fall in under. Also If some one could pm or post here are we going with blue jean trousers or english royal blue?.. Thanks to all those who organized this and the efforts of those helping equip the ones who want to attend!!
Chris
Coatsy
12-19-2012, 01:30 PM
The "blue" trousers option Skip mentioned are the English "imported" blue trousers/Royal blue. (whatever we are calling them these days)
Texas Pard
12-29-2012, 06:57 PM
I have real and legitimate concerns regarding the force ratios for the upcoming 150th Chickamauga reenactment.
Fact 1: The reenacting community as a whole is disproportionally Confederate. The battle reenactment is of a Confederate victory in the deep South. Local Union reenactor numbers are quite small and the geographic distance of the event from the Northern states is great. This coupled with the fact that the Union tactically lost the battle, may curb the enthusiasm of a number of Northern reenactors to attend.
Fact 2: It appears that almost the entire hardcore/progressive spectrum is portraying Confederate units for this battle. There is a 10 Company adjunct portraying the 2nd SC Infantry Rgmt., The Southern Division is portraying the 3rd SC Battalion, and The Independent Rifles are forming a 5 company Western Confederate battalion.
Fact 3: A large percentage of Confederate units in the mainstream community do not galvanize. I commend the units that do, but I have noticed that when such units do galvanize, a number of their impressions are incomplete. Some of them only don a blue jacket and consider it good (nevermind their gray kepi and gray pants). It is also not uncommon to see a few troops in galvanized units with no Yankee clothing article whatsoever.
Questions:
Do the event organizers have any type of policy in to ensure accurate force ratios?
If not, is there any reason to expect the event to have a substantial amount of Union troops, so that the force ratios are even (or at least close to even)?
Will there be any bare minimum uniform requirements for southern units that will be asked to galvanize for the event (ie. Must have Blue coat, sky blue pants, blue forage/black hat)?
I am in no ways trying to rain on anybodys parade, Hell, I’m excited about the upcoming event! But I will pose the question…should maybe the progressive/hardcore community consider participating exclusively Union in future mainstream reenactments that are held in the lower Southern states?
Just my 2 cents…
Weldon Svoboda
Pvt_Sullivan
12-30-2012, 07:49 AM
I am in no ways trying to rain on anybodys parade, Hell, I’m excited about the upcoming event! But I will pose the question…should maybe the progressive/hardcore community consider participating exclusively Union in future mainstream reenactments that are held in the lower Southern states?
Weldon, not to sound too flippant... but that's got about as much chance of happening as a snowball fight in hades.
The community is too fractured for a "policy" of that kind to be implemented.
Nor, should such a thing be done. From my view the Authentic Community has always been looking for opportunities to portray history and for that to happen a leader or leaders need to make an event plan and sell it to their comrades and then sell it to the community. Putting rules in the way will only stifle innovation and experimentation.
As far as force ratios, that is the event's problem. The BGA has made the effort to enforce it and I think they did a decent job of it at Shiloh this year. I fully expect them to do what they can with the even more fractured mainstream community.
Strawfoot
12-30-2012, 02:50 PM
In my opinion, what really helped force ratios at Shiloh was Matt Woodburn and the WIGS putting together a 300+ man battalion to form the 15th Iowa. The BGA does have a galvanization policy, and from what I've seen most of the CSA units that have done so in the past have been pretty stand up about it. As a Fed, I'm not going to flip out if a few guys in a galzanizing battalion have reb gear. I'm happy to have them.
Tactical policy has been for CSA battalions to cycle through the battles to get their trigger time. Again, these boys have been pretty cool about this as well. In general, I've been pleasantly surprised. At Prairie Grove, some of them barely got in the fight, but nobody broke scenarios and we put on a fairly decent portrayal of the battle.
As for Chickamauga, it is what it is. I'm not going to expect the WIG to do blue again, and in fact they have a magnificent weekend planned for their guys impression-wise. No, I don't begrudge them at all, especially in light of the WIG traditionally being a CSA outfit. Will the event be an 'alamo' for Feds? Lol... Probably. We'll all bring 300 rounds and gloves to hold our scalding rifles... What would really help? If some of our Eastern brothers showed up. We'll get some, but surely not in any large organized body.
Strawfoot
12-31-2012, 12:13 PM
I can't in good conscience go to Chickamauga as ANV; my 3x great grandfather's regiment (35th IL) was routed by Longstreet's boys there. Apparently they were the last regiment to try to march to correct the placement error that made the gap in the Union lines and got hit rear and flank at the same time, then broke and ran. He lived to get shot in the face at Mission. Ridge.
That being said, any ideas or rumblings about a Federal adjunct?
Alexander Vasquez
Formerly of Co. C, 15 IA
I know this reply is WAY late, but my unit has been getting some inquiries from various Federal types asking about this event. The 24th Missouri will field a Federal company for Chickamauga, it is a MAX effort for us under the Army of the Frontier, 1st Fed Div. Our captain, Cal Kinzer, has already been getting emails fromoutsiders and would probably welcome anybody off the AC site who wants to do Fed. There is also a chance we may be involved with Dom Dal Bello in some larger venture within the Brigade, but it is too early for details as of yet. Many of you know me, and my unit. For those who don't the link is in my sig line, where you will find our contact info.
I saw this as a general thread on Chickamauga, and am not looking to rain on anyone's parade. If I did gray, I would be in on the CSA adjunct yesterday. For the others like me, who may be looking for a Fed unit for this event, we just wanted to offer an option.
Spinster
01-01-2013, 12:50 PM
Thank you Mike for articulating some cogent points.
As a member of the organizing team for Chickamauga, and of the executive committee of the BGA, I'll offer some observations, though I normally prefer to remain silent publically on military matters. Please pardon any deficiencies in my military vocabulary.
We are grateful for primary portrayals on both sides, as well as to those who readily galvanize at events, such as the men of the Cotton States Battalion and King's Texans, who provided a number of Federal troops on Sunday at Shiloh. There are people in all facets of the hobby for whom historical scenarios and ratios trump personal preference.
The BGA deals with problematic ratios by planning scenarios which allow the rotation of troops in and out of battles. The sooner registrations come in, the better we are able to plan for those anomalies.
The event site to be used for the 2013 Chickamauga is a unique one, with generous acreage, and containing original Federal approaches. For those men who wish to portray Federals, please do contact Mike, Cal, and others who have already stepped up. The property is large enough that men on both sides will be able to insulate their in camp experiences from distractions.
I'm also greatful to military men who have looked especially deep into the record, and have chosen to aid with some unusual and documented civilian portrayals for this event.
As for stricter standards for troops galvanizing, well, some folks do better than others. We remain grateful that they will do so. Fellers, It's a Mainstream Event. There is a price to be paid to see numbers and to fight in numbers.
I leave my spectacles in my pocket so I won't see poorly disguised women in the ranks either. I find that choice makes me a nicer person. And I need all the help I can get.
We look forward to hosting you.
All the best,
Terre Lawson
Civilian Governor, Blue Gray Alliance.
Coatsy
01-01-2013, 12:52 PM
Friends, this thread is for the Kershaw's Brigade effort. I'll change the title to help out.
Second, Weldon and others bring up decent points. This particular campaigner effort that started at 150th Manassas was CS, last year it was US at Shiloh, in 2013 it is CS for Chickamauga. There are othe groups besides the WIG involved with this particular grouping. As for 2014 and 2015 events, the leadership will be better suited to let everyone know what is going on.
Strawfoot
01-01-2013, 02:08 PM
Sorry to hi-jack your thread, I guess I just didn't want to see that magnificent unit they are forming have to shoot at rabbits, the trees, or even each other for lack of targets... lol. That was a great post Terre.
Boy of '61
01-01-2013, 11:29 PM
I believe there is a progressive Federal battalion being formed for Chickamauga portraying a battalion from Van Deveer’s Brigade. Here is a link to the Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/events/463672593671641/.
Coatsy
01-02-2013, 07:37 AM
Mike, no problem. There hasn't been much chat here about Federal participation. Andy, thanks for posting that link.
dave81276
01-05-2013, 12:24 PM
After a few years away from "The Hobby" due to work, I'm in for this one. One of the last events I did before dropping out was the WIG (I think) living history at the National Battlefield Park as Kershaw's Brigade, and I loved it. Now I have nine months to lose 90 pounds, so I can fit in my electric blue trousers!
elcid01
01-11-2013, 03:41 PM
Coordination has already taken place with the BGA CS Senior staff and permission was granted on Kershaws Brigade way before this thread started. Those who are participating should focus on the preparation of their mess or company levels. Brian, Chris, and the others at the brigade level are handling all the top level issues. We do this so that you don't have to and can concentrate on the main endstate: maximizing the Historical experience to portray those who fought before us.
That being said, I do not get on here often. If there is a concern most know me from FB or my personal email is below.
Just to add more to the Kershaws Brigade Update:
Rations will be 15$. This is a 5$ increase from 4th Texas but we will have more than enough to make up for it in subsistence. Also Antietam was green apples and corn, you will get more than this per the commissary Acounts of Kershaw. Please PayPal this to caridijp@vcu.edu
Keep procuring your BG jackets, as stated before this is the mandatory peice of uniform for the event. Some companies are choosing to go the extra mile and get kepi's, trousers ect.. This is on you and your company commander. I know with economic hard times we can't all go procure a 3-400$ kit. All the vendors for the RD BG jackets have made viable, affordable options for all sized wallets. Again if you have a issue please contact Brian then Me for issues
-to ensure we don't have any confusion. This will be only Kershaws Brigade for the entire weekend. Galvanizing isn't even a option. I know the topic of force ratios has been mentioned. I completely agree and this has been worked with higher staff for a plan we will emplace during the weekend.
i ask you concentrate on this:Registration and impression refinement/procurement is what I am asking the participants to focus on for the time being.
Thank you gentlemen.
Skip
GWagner
05-03-2013, 02:48 PM
Thought this might be of interest:
"It Was Easy to Distinguish Them From the Soldiers of Bragg's Army":
The Uniform of Longstreet's Corps at Chickamauga
Longstreet's troops had recently been newly uniformed, consisting of a dark-blue round jacket, closely fitting, with light-blue trousers, which made a line of Confederates resemble that of the enemy, the only difference being the "cut" of the garments—the Federals wearing a loose blouse instead of a tight-fitting jacket. The uniforms of the Eastern troops made quite a contrast with the tattered and torn homemade jeans of their Western brethren.1
Thus did Augustus Dickert, veteran of the 3rd South Carolina Infantry of Kershaw's Brigade, describe the appearance of Longstreet's men upon their arrival in Georgia in September, 1863. Braxton Bragg's Army of Tennessee was outnumbered and facing imminent battle with the Union Army of the Cumberland, under Major General William Rosecrans. The decision was made to reinforce Bragg with two divisions of Lee's Army of Northern Virginia. Two of Longstreet's divisions, those of Lafayette McLaws and John Bell Hood, were selected to go, along with Micah Jenkins' South Carolina brigade, formerly of Pickett's Division. The Confederates began boarding trains near Richmond on September 9th, but the time required to move all 12,000 troops resulted in a large portion of Longstreet's command, including all of the artillery, missing the great battle of Chickamauga on September 19th and 20th. The brigades that did arrive in time to participate were those of Kershaw and Humphreys, of McLaws' Division, and Law, Robertson, and Benning, of Hood's Division.2
As soon as Longstreet's men began to arrive at the front their appearance made an impact on the soldiers of the western army. On September 19th an Army of Tennessee artillerist recorded in his diary: "Our first impression was partly caused by the color of their uniform, but more by its uniformity, and the superior style of their equipments, in haversacks, canteens, and knapsacks. The contrast between them and Gen'l Bragg's motley, ragged troops was striking in the extreme."3
The Yankees, too, noticed and were confused by the appearance of Longstreet's men. At Chickamauga the men of the 125th Ohio hesitated to fire on Hood's advancing troops because of their uniforms. A veteran of that regiment wrote, "Those moving battalions did appear to wear blue, dusty blue, and probably they were clothed in blue jeans. The were Longstreet's men, just arrived from Virginia. We had never seen a Confederate clothed otherwise than in butternut or gray."4
Even General Ulysses S. Grant experienced an embarrassing encounter when he arrived in the area weeks later. "General Longstreet's corps was stationed there at the time, and wore blue of a little different shade from our uniform. Seeing a soldier in blue on this log, I rode up to him, commenced conversing with him, and asked whose corps he belonged to. He was very polite, and, touching his hat to me, said he belonged to General Longstreet's corps. I asked him a few questions—but not with a view of gaining any particular information—all of which he answered, and I rode off." Such cases of mistaken identity were likely compounded by the fact that many Union soldiers of the western armies wore short jackets and civilian hats.
cprljohnivey
05-03-2013, 03:48 PM
Glen,
When you copy and past stuff from other people's articles... you may want to at least give credit to the original author, in this case James M. Schruefer who has that article copy written. Just a suggestion ;)
Since you did not post the entire artilce, I will post a link for the benefit of all.
http://stonewallbrigade.org/Chickamauga_Article.html
Thanks,
GWagner
05-06-2013, 09:57 AM
Brad, I found the text on another site and the author, nor copyright information was listed. The lack thereof was not intentional. Thanks for the clarification.
Jim of The SRR
05-09-2013, 02:01 PM
Is any additional information going to be forthcoming about this effort? Battalion structure, hype, info, etc? Looking forward to donning the blue kersey!
Jim Butler
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