Pickett's Mill Question

[marlin teat]

I saw no cameras the entire weekend other than a few carried by spectators…and that is exactly as it should be. That being said, this was one of those events that makes you want to go up to the “authenticity-challenged”, grab them by the shoulders, and shove a picture in their faces and say “See, this is the way it should be!”

I’m told that there was one spectator on the field during the Saturday battle taking photos for a publication although I never noticed him. Does anyone know anything about this? Did the Park staff or Friends of the Park get any photos?

[Jersey Devil]

Registration for Picketts Mill 2004 = $25

Additional donation for John's fence rails = $25

Gas from Central Jersey to Dallas Georgia = $90 (Each way)

Knowing that you are still going to the right events = PRICELESS


PS - Nice to meet you Marlin!

[Dave Grieves]

I saw many cameras in the hands of federal soldiers, and was quite disappointed. :mad: But there may be some photos available like the ones you desire.

[marlin teat]

Registration for Picketts Mill 2004 = $25

Additional donation for John's fence rails = $25

Gas from Central Jersey to Dallas Georgia = $90 (Each way)

Knowing that you are still going to the right events = PRICELESS


PS - Nice to meet you Marlin!

Great to meet you too, Bo. BTW, one of my period moments was watching you "brew up" down next to the creek. I left my boiler back with the trains and was drooling for some coffee.

[trippcor]

Marlin,
To answer your question, yes there were folks from the Park (John McKinnel, Coley's Brother, and Max) taking pictures. Coley and I are working to get those to post along with an AAR for Rick and Patrick. Also someone from the Civil War Courier was there during the battle taking pictures. Though Greg Pace and myself tried to keep him out of the area of the fight but he would not stay gone. In fact he was down right rude about not being willing to leave and go with the other spectators. He did not have permission from the Park to be down there either. Their Staff had herded him back to the spectator area three times before either side got there to start the fight I found out later.

Anyway I hope they will be willing to share their pictures with us as well.

[OleMissRebel]

I'll admit that I was one of the federals who had a camera, I kept it in my knapsack most all of the weekend, and only pulled it out in the parking lot before the event or when there was an obvious modern intrusion, didn't want to ruin anyones moment....such as when the federal line stopped next to a bulldozer for half an hour. During the saturday battle, I was so awe inspired by what I was seeing, one of the most authentic battle recreations i've ever been apart of, that I took a hit and discreetly took a position far behind the federal line and took 3 or 4 quick snaps from the rear before throwing it back in my knapsack. I hope I didn't ruin anyones moment, I'll post the pics on this site as soon as possible.

[trippcor]

Ryan,
If you can send them to me I would like to post them on the WIG website.

[OleMissRebel]

not a problem Tripp.

[Tom Ezell]

Also someone from the Civil War Courier was there during the battle taking pictures. Though Greg Pace and myself tried to keep him out of the area of the fight but he would not stay gone. In fact he was down right rude about not being willing to leave and go with the other spectators. He did not have permission from the Park to be down there either. Their Staff had herded him back to the spectator area three times before either side got there to start the fight I found out later.

WTF was the Civil War Courier doing there? This seems to be way out of their league... in a year and a half, I have yet to see a single mention of the authentic side of the hobby in that miserable rag.

They must've been lost ;-)

Tom

[trippcor]

You got me?? We didn't invite them. Of course I could be remembering wrong which considering how tired I was after the weekend was over is quite possible.

[pprice]

Perhaps you could track down the gent with the Pomeranian, aluminum camp chair, and the 2 barbies on his arms. If I was a betting man, I'd say he had a camera too. :sick:

[Strawfoot]

I also brought a camera with me to the event, for pictures to submit with an AAR to the Camp Chase. When I got to the registration tent, I asked John if I could bring it if I promised to only take pictures once the event ended, before everyone could disperse to their cars.

He was adamant that NO cameras be allowed in, and that was that.

If anyone has copies that they can spare, please contact me at:

michael.phineas@txcars.ang.af.mil

I am still considering submitting an article to CCG on the event, so that others who do not peruse these forums may read of the success that was the Mill. Or maybe I should just ask their Courier photographer for some...

Mike Phineas
Arlington, TX

[crabby]

Tom,

Not in defense of the person from the Civil War Courier, I believe they just bought the CCG. May be their start in getting the authentic slant to their rag.

Crabby

[Tom Ezell]

Not in defense of the person from the Civil War Courier, I believe they just bought the CCG. May be their start in getting the authentic slant to their rag.

The Second Law of thermodynamics holds that in the absence of appropriate constraints, entropy (disorder) increases with respect to time, pressure, volume, etc.

Same thing happens when you mix bad apples with good apples. The bad ones don't improve, rather it's the other way around. I will be shocked, I say

SHOCKED!

if the CCG/CWC merger leads to an improvement in either publication.

:cry_smile

Tom

[Kevin O'Beirne]

To support what Dave Grieves said, I too saw more than one Federal (although it was only a few) waving a camera at various points in the weekend.

Those of us from our group who attended posed for a couple photos, but that was only in the parking lot on Friday evening and Sunday morning after the event was over.

I too would like to see some images from the event, but can't provide any other than a few of guys from our group standing in front of trees in the parking lot.

[JimConley]

While I don't support modern articles at events such as Pickett's Mill, I am one that loves photos. The great thing about these type of events is that someone is usually commissioned to take photographs for the weekend. But since a few of you have some pics, and I too, did spot a couple federals with cameras in the cornfield saturday, lets get those pics posted!

[OleMissRebel]

I can't post pictures because the image gallery appears to be broken.

[trippcor]

If you can email them to me I will post them on the WIG website.

trippcor@bellsouth.net

[markmason]

I agree with Mr. Cleveland and others in respect to cameras. I was standing next to Ryan when John Cleveland wanted to stomp his camera into the ground. :wink_smil

However, if one or two souls bring a camera and keep it out of sight until the end of a event, why not? we only do this once and recording the moment with your pals makes a keepsake to look back upon. As Ryans said, the DAMN ditch digger and houses along the way intruded far more than a camera in the parking lot. :baring_te

[OleMissRebel]

I as much as anyone respect and desire to have magic moments, but when a ditch digger is roaring and automobiles driving by, I doubt I am disturbing anyone's magic moment by pulling a camera out of my knapsack for 2 seconds to get a quick shot in order to try and share our awesome experience with our comrades who were not able to attend.

That being said, can anyone please figure out how to post images to the image gallery???

[styler]

Not a comment on photos...

That stop near the construction equipment should be drawing praise that this site has been saved from the encroaching development. That backhoe and worse have already eaten through other insignificant sites around Atlanta; Peachtree Creek, for example. It should be a call to pay attention to places like New Hope Church - a Priority II battlefield just next door.

I'm glad we stopped where we did. The wolf is prowling the neighborhood.

[justthemiller]

Hello All,

From what I saw of New Hope Church last weekend it looks as if they are bulldozing it over as we speak. I was curious if anyone had any information about the Dallas battlefield. As New Hope Church, Pickett's Mill & Dallas all took place between May 26-28, 1864 I would be curious if any preservation was done over on that end of the line. Take care.

[trippcor]

Most all of that line has been built and developed. All tries to preserve that property have failed. Heck Pickett's Mill tried to buy some of the property that now has new homes being built but the owners refused to sell to the State or Friends group. All they cared about was who had the highest dollar figure. Many great entrenchments were bulldozed there.

[Enfilade]

Just a side note. The NC boys at Pickett's Mill met up at Kennesaw Battlefield. Upon arrival I noticed a "For Sale" sign to the adjacent property. It said, "$200,000 an Acre, 42 Acres", and I believe it's zoned residential. :mad:

Mark Berrier
North State Rifles
combinations@northstate.net

[Tom Ezell]

Mark:

The last time I was over by Kennesaw the year before last, several of the most miserable little briar patches you could imagine were being offered up at $50,000/acre...

Tom

[marlin teat]

There was an article in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution several years ago on this subject. It seems that Atlantans will pay top dollar for these properties that back onto the park because no one can build in their back yards. It's kind of a mixed blessing, though. The park service will never be able to afford these properties so at least it will be mansions that will hopefully provide a greenspace buffer to inevitable commercial development similar to that which destroyed the Brushy Mountain Line (now under Barrett Parkway) or that surrounds Cheatham Hill (a vast sea of Starbucks, condos, and asphalt).

ps: I may be wrong but I believe the property that you are speaking of, while historic, was not involved very heavily in the action around the mountain. The truly endangered areas are around Pigeon Hill, Little Kennesaw, and Lost Mountain. Much of this private property is in the hands of older citizens who have held out against development but who knows what will happen when it passes down to their estates.