How much education have you had?

[paulcalloway]

If you don't mind sharing, out of curiousity, I wonder how much education our userbase has had.

[YankRI]

Paul,

Is it possible to create a separate category for a law degree? The juris doctor (as the degree is called) is a three-year program (full-tme) that is not quite a doctorate (although some would argue that it is) but is certainly more than a master's degree. It's not a big deal but I would be curious to see how many members of the bar use this forum.

Respectfully yours,

[paulcalloway]

Yeah no trouble adding that. Unfortunately it's out of order in the hierarchy and appears at the bottom of the list... I could say something about that, but I wont... :D .

[Scott Sherlock]

If you don't mind sharing, out of curiousity, I wonder how much education our userbase has had.


education???--not enough;

schooling??? a law degree.

[davelotter]

If you don't mind sharing, out of curiousity, I wonder how much education our userbase has had.
OK, here goes nothing.
Completed degrees:

1 English Degree awarded
1 Law degree awarded

Currently Studying:

Physics & Engineering

And I may add Arabic or another foreign language degree due to current events. Does this info help?

p.s. And I have learned a few helpful tricks here. . .

Dave, please sign your posts - Mike Chapman

[CPT Fritz]

Unfortunately, I don't have the Law degree mentioned, but I do have an AA %& BS, but will only let me show one (no, I'm not showing off), not to mention 3 Officer Basic Courses and 5 Officer Advanced Courses from my 22 years in the Army Reserve.

Like someone else mentioned, a lot of schooling but not enough education.

[Canebrake Rifle Guards]

I have another odd combination, two bachelors degrees.

Greg Starbuck

[JimKindred]

ten characters

[13thnhv]

Some night college
Many hard knocks

[Vuhginyuh]

I have a cat.

[JimKindred]

Well, so do I.

[Minieball577]

This question I guess could get taken the wrong way, but I am going to ask it anyway. It is not meant as any sort of insult.

Given that about 80% of the people who have answered the poll have some higher education, do you think there is a link between education level and "farbism", as you call it?

Perhaps the link, if any, is in that given the higher level of education here, clearly higher than societal norms, there is a higher level of salary/income , which allows for a higher-end level of gear etc.? I know it is not "all about the gear" but it does have something to do with it.

Again, not meant as an insult to anyone. I am broke, AND somewhat educated...and still working at both!

[allan4570]

All I can and will say is, "I am educated beyond my capacity" :p

[paulcalloway]

This question I guess could get taken the wrong way, but I am going to ask it anyway. It is not meant as any sort of insult.

Given that about 80% of the people who have answered the poll have some higher education, do you think there is a link between education level and "farbism", as you call it?

Perhaps the link, if any, is in that given the higher level of education here, clearly higher than societal norms, there is a higher level of salary/income , which allows for a higher-end level of gear etc.? I know it is not "all about the gear" but it does have something to do with it.

Again, not meant as an insult to anyone. I am broke, AND somewhat educated...and still working at both!

I don't think this poll supports the assertion that "authentic/progressive/hardcore" are more educated then "farb/mainstream"... all I believe it suggests is that reenactors (of all stripes) are more educated then society in general.

To support your presumption we'd have to first establish that everyone who has voted here is progressive/hardcore which we all know isn't the case, there are plenty of mainstreamers that frequent this board. Then we'd have to conduct a similar poll with only farb/mainstream respondents.

People using computers are usually more educated then people who can't/don't use computers. I think what this really shows is that reenactors-on-the-internet are far more educated then the general masses - which is interesting but anecdotal at best.

[2RIVB]

Does half an AA count? I was a psych major, then a sociology major, then I got wise, and wanted to make money, so I am now an RN student. Lots of classes, lots learned, no degree yet. Should I also mention EMT school, HAZMAT 1 and 2, as well as a load of other work related courses.

PS, Paul, just because you can use a computer, doesn't mean the majority of computer users are educated. Remember, cave men had fire, and Smokey wasn't around then to babysit.

[K Bartsch]

So far, based on a limited number of respondents, we're way above the national average... an educated lot indeed!
:eek:

Cordially,
K. Bartsch

[Spinster]

Enough degrees in various fields of endeavour to wallpaper the bathroom, including theology, education, finance, accounting.........and finally I realized I'd rather be spinning and dyeing and knitting and weaving, with outmoded equipment under adverse circumstances, while wearing funny clothes........and so I wound up my dissertation research, and started doing what made me happy.

[bAcK88]

I'm still in high school but I am taking some AP courses such as AP American History.

[Scott]

what about a seperate category for college students? :)

Scott Davolt

[Trish Hasenmueller]

I think that this poll points out to us that people who like to 'do' reenactment, and try to do it right also put value into education. They enjoy putting energy into doing something for fun that can also be counted as a learning experience. I think most of us agree that nobody has learned it all and that there is still a wealth of knowlege to be gained in the research of the time period.

By the way, many educators have many hours of additional course work after gaining a masters, which is also not included on the poll.

Trish Hasenmueller

[Curt-Heinrich Schmidt]

Hallo Kameraden!

23 1/2 years' worth.

Professor Curt-Heinrich Schmidt, MSSA, D.E.
Doctor of Esoterica ;)

[Frenchie]

I have a cat.

That's not education, it's training. :D

[Scott]

Hey Paul,

I originally checked the did not graduate or still in school box, but you have now added the undergraduate box which is what I am... is there anyway to uncheck my first choice and check the appropriate box.... :confused: this way I don't mess up the survey

Thanks....
Scott Davolt

[DougCooper]

It strikes me that the biggest difference between the ners and the rbs is one of intellectual curiosity - and this poll clearly identifies that the we (the ners) have an abundance of that.

[paulcalloway]

Hey Paul,

I originally checked the did not graduate or still in school box, but you have now added the undergraduate box which is what I am... is there anyway to uncheck my first choice and check the appropriate box.... :confused: this way I don't mess up the survey

Thanks....
Scott Davolt
Scott, I'm afraid that once I set the poll up, some aspects of the poll can not be changed.. one of them is you being able to change your vote. If I had set the poll up differently you could have... but at the time I didn't think to.

Sorry about that, but your situation is noted.

[NY Pvt]

Yeah,
I am in the same boat as Scott. I checked the did not graduate, but the "in college box" is where I belong.

[marine05]

I think that there is a couple of things working here. The first is that many, not all reenactors, are professional people indicating a higher level of education or advanced technical training. Second to that is a higher income, due to professional or job related education requirements, providing some with more disposable income (kids, education loans, mortgages taken into consideration). Third there is the associated research experience that comes with additional education, thus there are probably fewer reenactors that will go on the advice of a friend, of a friend, of a friend that said... And the experience of going to more than one research source. I have also come into contact with a large number of former, active or retired military members, so some soldiering experience is present and the attitude of "doing it right" prevails.

For me, the "pointy end", that is the batte line, artillery and cavalry part of reenacting is very interesting, but as an active duty Marine working as a procurement and logistics program manager, it is what we will never see that intrigues me the most. In most militaries the tooth to tail ratio is about 1:4. So it is interesting to me that I have encountered few reenactors that had relatives in the ACW that claim that GGGrandad was a teamster or other quartermaster type. Let me say that in the AOP during the Petersburg and Ricmond campaigns not all the 200K soldiers were trigger pullers.

IMHO

s/f

[Clark Badgett]

I may be the odd ball here, but I would love to do a support impression. I'f I had a wagon and team I would jump at the chance to do a teamster impression, and haul supplies.

[Bill]

Some night college
Many hard knocks

For many of us, the school of Hard Knocks was more important then any of the formal education we might have had. I think I learned more by unloading box cars then I learned in college.

[AlamoRifle]

I've got an MA in Anthropology and I'm heading back to school in the fall to pursue my doctoral studies.

Mike Jordan
michaeljordan50@aol.com

[37NC]

Just graduated with a BA in Military History. I shovel coal for a living.


Sgt. Dan Curran
37th N.C. CoA

[theknapsack]

I accidentally clicked on masters. I'm in High School.

[haggins]

Although I graduated college and did a few years in law school (no JD though,heart wasn't in it), most of my education has come from my eleven years so far of raising my kids. I've learned more from trying to teach them about life, manners, doing the right thing and appreciating all that others have done for you (of which the WBTS is a great microcosm of example) than in all the years spent sitting around classrooms feeling self important and educated. One day spent doing haversack talks for my son's 120 fellow first graders I feel was equal to a dissertation, and much more meaningful to me. I think that the level of education a reenactor has is unimportant compared with the level of educating he or she is prepared to do. Otherwise we do a great disservice to ourselves and those that so gallantly went before us.
:nerd:
Mike Radinsky
Third Maryland Regm't Co. B
"Without fear there is no courage"

[Dale Beasley]

This Thread reminds me of the last ten minutes of the Wizard of Oz.....when the Scare Crow asked the Wizard for a brain....the Wizard replied "I cant give you a brain....but I can give you a diploma"....... :wink_smil

[Strawfoot]

Bachelor of Science in Management (magna cum laude, but it was only a Cal State school...)

Four Associates Degrees (two from the Community College of the AF)

One A & P license.

All of it isn't worth the 15 plus years experience in my field...

Mike Phineas
Arlington, TX

[marlin teat]

Bachelor of Arts - Music Education
Bachelor of Arts - Industrial Education
Masters - American History

21 years in the field

[Secede1863]

Still in School.
- I have a dog

A. Stebbins

[bluebellybugleboy]

Hallo Kameraden!

23 1/2 years' worth.

Professor Curt-Heinrich Schmidt, MSSA, D.E.
Doctor of Esoterica ;)
I was wondering Curt.
what is Esoterica? I've no clue.
I'm in high school and am looking to get a degree in engineering. I know what ever i do it will be after I get out of the military, I know I'll be going in there it's family tradition.

[hireddutchcutthroat]

6 year Tool and die makers aprenticeship. Almost a BA, and I have a working knowlege of 5 languages

[hireddutchcutthroat]

And I have 3 cats.

[celtfiddler]

Associate of Arts degree and a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration

Kimberly Schwatka

[Texian]

Bachelor's in Photography/Studio Art, Master's in Counseling/Human Development, and way too much continuing education in adolescent mental-health. I should have stuck with history, oh well.
---Ed

[MickCole]

Bachelor's degree from UC Berkeley; JD from U of Idaho.
Mick Cole

[Chuck A Luck]

Bachelors' Degree, Univ. of Tennessee, Knoxville
...and I've got four cats.

Charles Kibler

[FedOfficer]

M.B.A.

Rick Rachal

[Csayankee]

Here is one you all might not have seen. Come Dec. 2004 BS in Fire and Safety Engineering Technology with an option in Fire Protection Admin.

Already am a Certified Fire and Explosive Investigator and a Certified Fire Investigator Instructor.

Thanks
Daniel MacInnis, CFEI CFII

[Moonshine]

AA - Liberal Studies: Fullerton College, Ca.
BFA - Graphic Design: Cal St Fullerton "Penitentary", Ca.

Here's the twist... and the stuff that really matters!!!

EMT 1 Certified - ROP of Ca.
Currently taking fire science classes for a AS in Fire Science, at Santa Ana College, Ca.

Funny how the lower of the certificates matters most. I want to change careers and put wet stuff on red stuff!!!

Last but not least...
"Moonshine Certified" by my great uncles Moonshine Workshop,
Marshall, Ark.

Jim Ross

[marine05]

Let's see:

-BS in Management, concentration in HR (Magna Cum Laude) Bridgewater State College, MA

-Working on MS in Management, concentration in HR, Florida Institute of Technology

-Executive Education in Logistics and Technology UNC

-Marine Corps Logistics Education Program, Penn State

-Command and Staff College

-Amphibious Warfare School

-The Basic Officer's Course

-Staff NCO Academy

-Instructor/Branch Chief and Student, U.S. Army Field Artillery School, Ft. Sill

-Navy/Marine Corps Aviation Electronics Training, NAS Memphis

-Reconnaissance Indoctrination School

-Infantry Training School

-Recruit Training, Parris Island, SC

So in a nutshell I can hire and fire, move stuff, fix stuff and wreak death and destruction...

The latter three places of education I take the most pride in.

s/f

DJM

[markj]

MCRD, San Diego CA
Infantry Training School, Camp Pendleton CA
Marine Security Guard School (aka "Embassy Guards"), Henderson Hall VA
U.S.A.F. Personnel School, Biloxi AFB MS
PERSCO (Personnel Support for Contingency Operations) School, Biloxi AFB MS
NCO Leadership School, Lajes AB Azores
NCO Academy, RAF Upwood UK
A.A.S. (Associate in Applied Science), Community College of the Air Force
B. A., History, Purdue University
M.S.Ed., Higher Education Administration, Purdue University

Yours, &c., &c.,

Mark Jaeger

[James Brenner]

I have an MA in American military history from The Ohio State University and will graduate from the Army War College this summer. Now all I have to do is figure out what I want to be when I grow up.

[rick atwood]

Bachelor of Arts in Religion and Philosophy. I pray therefore I am.

[RN_PAC]

2 yrs/ 6 semesters to obtain my diploma as a Registered Nurse from St. Luke's Hospital School of Nursing in Bethlehem, PA

4 yrs/10 semesters to obtain my BS in medicine/PA studies at Penn College in Williamsport, PA to become a Physician Assistant (a midlevel practitoner, akin to Nurse Practitoners, Midwives, Anesthetists [not Anesthesiologists], Child Health Associates, &cet).

I hate to admit it, but I want to start a graduate program but keep putting it off...too comfortable in my present lifestyle... :wink_smil

best regards,
Tom Scoufalos
Gastroenterology Associates of York, P.C.

[Delia Godric]

Undergrad:
BA Sociology, SUNY Geneseo
AAS Social Sciences, FLCC
Post-grad work:
FDC (Family Development Credential), Cornell University
12 credits towards MA in American History, University of New Orleans (will eventually get back to that)

And I have one big fluffy cat (don't know why I am adding that)

Anna Worden

[JWolf]

A.A. (North Iowa Area Community College)
B.A.- Teaching: Social Science/Secondary Education (Northern Iowa)
M.S.- Education: Counseling and Guidance (Buena Vista University)

[MickCole]

In my earlier reply, I forgot to mention some of my more important education:
Basic Training, Lackland AFB, TX
Vietnamese Language Training, National Security Agency, Ft. Meade, MD
Voice Intercept Operator Training, Goodfellow AFB, TX
Jungle Survival Training, Clark AB, Philippine Islands
Aircrew Survival Training (including Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE)), Fairchild AFB, WA--probably most useful formal course I ever took.
Sea Survival Training, Numazu, Japan
Also, way overtrained BSA leader, including Wood Badge
Mick Cole

[PigPen]

Texas A&M 2 semesters (too much BS)
4 years Marine Infantry (Way too much BS)
3 years as a Bodyguard (way way too much political BS)

Somewhere inbetween I started an unfinished degree (18 months away from a software engineering degree, probably will be 18 months away for the rest of my life. 4.0 GPA)

Now I work at a coal mine.... The best education I've had

[DougCooper]

Master of Public Administration - Shippensburg University
Bachelors of Political Science and Economics - Rice University

Mike Hendricks school of the soldier
Mark Tackitt school of the company
Dom dal Bello school of the battalion
Chris Daley school of the tailor and life priorities
Curt Schmitt school of the gun
James Owens school of the accouterment
John Stillwagon school of research
Paul Calloway school of inter-hobby relations and cat herding
Danny McCoslin school of motivation
Dusty Chapman/Matt Rector school of preservation
US Navy school of leadership

and Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) school - the Navy's POW training where the torture is real and where you get no privileges for being the senior guy. Life lessons a plenty.

and I have a cat too

[Dreamer42]

BA in Art
Started MA in Art History - then lost interest/career change
10 Years U.S. Army Reserves (Engineers)
"Where else can you build things, then blow them up?"
Secondary Teacher Certification
Tons of training in Photoshop/Illustrator
Currently High School Teacher (15 years)
- Art
- US History
- Digital Graphics
- Part-time baby sitter ;-)

Jay Reid
9th Texas

[Andrew Jarvi]

Education:
Fire Science Assoc. Degree
Ohio Firefighter II
Paramedic (let that cert. go due to back probs)
HAZMAT Tech
and currently working on my Assoc. in Paralegal studies

Andrew Jarvi
Capt. 5th USCT

Also most of the men and ladies of the 5th USCT are highly educated or well read.

[Lone_Rebel87]

Two more years of High school and I'll be in college majoring in American history and minoring in American military history or agriculture.....haven't quite decided yet. :)


Jordan Davis

[Pvt.CLC]

I am 17 and as soon as the school year starts I will be a senior in High School.
eventually i will be attending collage and depending on my financial abilitys. i do want to go to gettysburg collage and study in there Civil War era classes and who knows one day i will be working for the NPS. I also have been looking into Liberty University which is nice smack dabb in the middle of the Civil War area!! :D. oh yea...i want to major in History.

[NC5thCav]

I graduated from Nashville Auto Diesel College as an Honor Student, worked on big trucks and heavy equipment for a year, then decided to follow what is my true calling. I am now a 23yr old junior at Appalachian State University in the mountains of Boone, North Carolina. I am working toward an eventuall masters in US history with a minor in sociology, and plan to teach. Because of financial reasons I haven't actually started in reenacting yet, but I am trying to research my immpression as much as possible first, to insure the best immpresion I can. And I have a dog, a German shephard named Jessy-- she hates cats. :)

Derek Carpenter

"First at Bethel, Farthest at Gettysburg and Chickamauga, last at Appomattox"

[Bummer]

Undergraduate degree, some graduate school to pick up another major, 2 1/2 years of law school, underwater archaology graduate school (master's program but did not write final paper). Assorted other graduate level courses (foriegn language etc.).

But would you believe that I flunked US History 101 so many times that they wouldn't let me take it again, and as it was a prerequisite, I had to end up changing my major.....
(I've since rectified that sordid bit of juvenile ommission)

S.Waldron~

[joey12thga]

I am a High School Grad.......blue collar worker.

[ElizabethClark]

Folks, here's another thread over two years old... let's move on. :)