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    Finding the maker of a de-farbed rifle

    I have a '61 Springfield which had been de-farbed by a previous owner. Is there any way to tell who the manufacturer might be (Armi or Euro) by looking at the serial number (it's on the underside of the barrel)? Or would there be any maker's markings I should look for? This rifle is probably 20 years old. I've had it for 10, and I have no idea how long the previous owner held it for. I can't ask him because he's pretty disappeared off the face of the earth, and he had so many fire arms he probably won't remember. I tried the search function to not much avail. The reason I ask is because I would like to replace a few parts in on the lock and I'd like to get the right part, unless of course it doesn't matter what manufacturer's part I get. I'd appreciate any help on this.
    Matt Lovejoy

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    Re: Finding the maker of a de-farbed rifle

    Call S&S Firearms and ask them, they can tell you by the serial number....

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    Re: Finding the maker of a de-farbed rifle

    If you post a picture of the inside of the lock, I, or someone else, could probably tell you the maker. There are subtle differences between them.
    Mike Pearson
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    Re: Finding the maker of a de-farbed rifle

    Micheal,

    Attached are a couple links to the inside of my lock. If you, or any one else, can determine the maker by these photos I would greatly appreciate it.

    Thanks,

    http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSCF3149.jpg

    http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSCF3152.jpg
    Matt Lovejoy

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    Re: Finding the maker of a de-farbed rifle

    Looks to me to be an old Armi-Sport, going by the thickness of the lockplate. Do you have any pics of the front?
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    Re: Finding the maker of a de-farbed rifle

    Better question, how does it fit in the lock mortise? The Armi Sport lock will be flush with the lock mortise. The Armi Sport is usually lock internals are usually marked "AC" inside a circle (for Armi Chiappa). The pics are not the best, but this looks like a Euroarms lock to me.

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    Re: Finding the maker of a de-farbed rifle

    Not at the time being. I'll get some after work and post them up, probably around 6ish.
    Matt Lovejoy

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    Re: Finding the maker of a de-farbed rifle

    Michael,

    Here are a few more photos for you to ponder. If there are any other ones you want let me know.


    http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSCF3171.jpg

    http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSCF3170.jpg
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    Re: Finding the maker of a de-farbed rifle

    Your lockplate markings look very much like what my older 1863 Springfield by Dixie Gun Works (Maruko maker) replica had on it. The style of lettering for the date, and the eagle stamping look identical.
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    Re: Finding the maker of a de-farbed rifle

    Euroarms. The Miroku lock has different size lettering an a fat turkey buzzard eagle. Plus the tumbler link drops down below the bottom of the lock plate on the Mirokus necessitating that you dig out a well in the lock mortise to accomodate it (when building the kit). The scalloped edge on this lock plate suggests this is an old Euroarms lock.

    Not positive but it most resembles a really old Euroarms lock. The good news is, some of the parts should interchange with original US 1861 parts.
    Last edited by Craig L Barry; 12-07-2007 at 08:03 PM.

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