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    The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    I have read the article in the Jan/Feb Civil War Historian about the top ten Confederate Generals. Do you agree with Michael and Thomas Aubrecht? Who would you pick? In what order would you place them? What I found most intriguing was the Interesting Facts on each general.
    I enjoyed some of the early biography details on the generals with which I was not conversant of.
    P. L. Parault

    "Three score and ten I can remember well, within the volume of which time I have seen hours dreadful and things strange: but this sore night hath trifled former knowings."

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    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    I do not agree with several of the picks.

    I think John Bowen doesn't get enough credit for what he did as a commander. If he had not died at the end of the Vicksburg siege, I think there would be much written about him today. At the head of the Missouri Brigade, he was unstoppable. He exercised independent command and bailed out Pemberton on several ocassions. He outperformed several of the generals that were on that list.

    I admit I'm biased in the matter since I'm a Missourian, but I really do think that an unbiased look at his command skills and accomplishments will bear me out.
    Michael Comer

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    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    top10?
    It's ashame that's what CWH magazine has gone to? I suppose next will be top 10 union generals?
    I love the magazine...just feel as if its quality has been slipping away lately.
    Just my two cents.

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    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    Micah,
    I couldn't agree with you more. It seems as if CWH has been declining in quality rapidly. If you compare the current issues to the older ones you will see the difference.

    I don't think I will do top ten but here's is the top three

    3. James Longstreet
    2. Jubal Early
    1. A.P. Hill
    Andrew Turner
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    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    Is there any doubt?

    1)D.H. Hill
    2)Stephen Dodson Ramseur*
    3)Robert F. Hoke
    4)William Dorsey Pender*

    *KIA
    My Top 4 anyways.
    Mark Berrier

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    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    1. D. H. Hill - obviously
    2. Bryan Grimes - he and his boys made a real fight of it at Fisher's Hill even after their flank was turned and the non-North Carolina troops had all fled.
    3. J.J. Pettigrew - fought like a caged tiger at Falling Waters
    4. Rufus Barringer - even when the end was very near, he and his tiny brigade of four North Carolina regiments sacrificed themselves as Lee's rearguard at Namozine Church and prevented Sheridan from gobbling up much of the infantry.
    Peter Julius
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    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    Gentlemen,
    There is an Obvious NC trend going on. I couldn't agree with you more! The NC generals were always slighted by the Richmond politicians and underrated by everybody!
    Michael Phillips, GGG Grandson of
    Pvt Edmond Phillips, 44th NCT, Co E, "The Turtle Paws"

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    Paroled at Appomattox C.H. Virginia, April 15, 1865


    "Good, now we'll have news from Hell before breakfast."
    Was Gen Sherman's response upon hearing the capture and execution of 3 reporters who had followed from Atlanta, by the rebels.
    The execution part turned out to be false. Dagg Nabbit!

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    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    accidentily hit button twice. Mods delete please
    Last edited by Prodical Reb; 02-12-2008 at 07:01 PM. Reason: mistake
    Michael Phillips, GGG Grandson of
    Pvt Edmond Phillips, 44th NCT, Co E, "The Turtle Paws"

    Mustered in March 1862
    Paroled at Appomattox C.H. Virginia, April 15, 1865


    "Good, now we'll have news from Hell before breakfast."
    Was Gen Sherman's response upon hearing the capture and execution of 3 reporters who had followed from Atlanta, by the rebels.
    The execution part turned out to be false. Dagg Nabbit!

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    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    I have to agree with Mr. Trent. I started my subscription back around the 5th issue or so & it seems to be going toward a different direction than I was expecting. When this issue came, I dont think I even looked at it after the first day it came in the mail. When my subscription runs out, I dont think I'll be renewing unless something changes.


    Bill Fean

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    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    Quote Originally Posted by huntdaw View Post
    I do not agree with several of the picks.

    I think John Bowen doesn't get enough credit for what he did as a commander. If he had not died at the end of the Vicksburg siege, I think there would be much written about him today. At the head of the Missouri Brigade, he was unstoppable. He exercised independent command and bailed out Pemberton on several ocassions. He outperformed several of the generals that were on that list.

    I admit I'm biased in the matter since I'm a Missourian, but I really do think that an unbiased look at his command skills and accomplishments will bear me out.
    Thank you for posting this. His leadership at Port Gibson is not topped by anyone. At Champion's Hill, again he bailed out Pemberton's army, and came very close to beating Grant. As close as any other did. I have studied Bowen a lot. If he had died in a glorious charge, instead of dying practically alone of dysentery, his memory would have been better served. Another great General was Cockrell. He has been described by at least one historian as the best combat commander of the war, either side. Part of his greatness may have been the result of learning from Bowen. Important to both generals was the men they led - The Missouri Brigade. This unit was decimated throughout the war. Very few returned home. Very few to carry the banners of Generals Bowen & Cockrell. The story of these men & their soldiers is a wonderful thing to learn.
    "Bowen's division sustained its reputation by making one of its grand old charges, in which it bored a hole through the Federal army, and finding itself unsupported turned around and bored its way back again" - Gen. Pemberton's chief engineering officer

    Sam Looney
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