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    French Knapsacks

    Fellows,
    I know of one of these that is sitting in the Atlanta History Center. Several folks have copied it. My question is what is the story on how many of these things made it over here during the war? To which army? And is this the correct pattern? There is no provenance on the one at AHC that I know of. Been looking at photos of French troops in the Crimea and can't make it out. I did find photos of one dated 1830-1840 on a French Antique militaria site (yes in France). It looked a bit different than the ones out there. The repros look more like the model 1893, that was tarred and later went to canvas for WW1.
    Or could it be that the French were much like the Brits when it came to their gear and only did minor changes as opposed to us Americans that changed about every 10-15 yrs....drastically.
    I am just curious...and yes have spent time researching.
    Thanks,
    Joe Blunt
    "...don't rush the judgement, until all the facts are in."

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    Re: French Knapsacks



    This is one of the photos of the original pack from France marked as 1830-40s. I am sort of a computer idiot and would be lucky if this posts. I have some more in my album on my personal page. feel free to check.

    Cheers,
    Joe Blunt
    "...don't rush the judgement, until all the facts are in."

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    Re: French Knapsacks

    Joe, was that knapsack painted or treated, or was it natural?
    Ross L. Lamoreaux
    rlamoreaux@tampabayhistorycenter.org


    "...and if profanity was included in the course of study at West Point, I am sure that the Army of the Cumberland had their share of the prize scholars in this branch." - B.F. Scribner, 38th Indiana Vol Inf

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    Re: French Knapsacks

    Hi all,

    I look that in this part of the Atlantic with the companions and I speak later with you
    William Miconnet
    French Mess
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    BGR & IPW Survivor
    Never ever give up!
    In memory of Steve Boulton, live the little story, lost in the history...
    I believe!

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    Re: French Knapsacks

    Ross,
    I don't know how it's treated. The front and flap looked to have some sort of coating, but the photos wash it out. As I stated it is was in French and what little I speak, I didn't make out in the brief description other than the date and it was a military pack.
    William,
    Yes, if you can find out something, that would be great. As stated, my French is quite poor and have tried other European sites to find out what was being used by the French during the Crimea Iguessing it was this that ws sent over) and to what extent and to who, France was selling militaria to. Bonne chanz

    Joe Blunt
    "...don't rush the judgement, until all the facts are in."

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    Re: French Knapsacks

    No problem

    I paused the question to a friend specialist of the French army of the 1st empire in Indochina, he will have certainly the answers to your questions
    William Miconnet
    French Mess
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    BGR & IPW Survivor
    Never ever give up!
    In memory of Steve Boulton, live the little story, lost in the history...
    I believe!

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    Re: French Knapsacks

    Someone get some pictures up for reference!
    Bryan O'Keefe
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    Conn. Vol. Infantry, Independent

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    Before more information, here is 1854 model.
    He is always covered with hair of veal for this model, all the buffleterie (leathers) are black, in the internal top of the drawer, he has one limps has zinc cartridge.
    Last edited by Mcouioui; 04-09-2008 at 05:42 PM.

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    1844 model, Idem, in skin of veal with hair.
    The models previous are the type 1st empire with a size itís a little different.





    Thanks for my friend Rougeaud Sergent of Ten Louisiana

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    Re: French Knapsacks

    I hope that helps?
    William Miconnet
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    Never ever give up!
    In memory of Steve Boulton, live the little story, lost in the history...
    I believe!

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