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    Illinois infantry men

    Hey everyone
    Here are two photographs, which are copies, of two ggg grandfathers of my girlfriend. I figured these might be of interest to people here and have been posted with permission of the family. Here is the info on these guys:
    Daniel Oberheim (first photo)
    They don't have many records of him. What they do know is that he was from Mt. Carroll, Carroll county, Illinois. They don't know what unit he was with unfortunately, nor if he was KIA, wounded, or survived.

    Henry Webber (second photo)
    He was born in Germany on March 17, 1843. By the time of the war, he too was in Mt. Carroll, Illinois. Enlisted as a private on August 14, 1862 at the age of 19 and was assigned to the Co. I, 92d Ill. Regiment (mounted infantry).
    According to copies of the muster roles that I have here and a copy of a letter from the war department for a commission of pension, Henry was never reported sick or missing and served honorably until he was mustered out with the 92d on June 21, 1865. FYI, he was married on March 31, 1866 to a nice little gal named Dora in Freeport, Ill. and lived happily ever after.
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    Kenny Pavia
    Si vis pacem, para bellum

    Proud Descendent of-

    Andrew Jackson Smith
    Born 11 July 1843, Greenfield, New York
    Enlisted 17 Feb 1862 in Co. C, 77th NYSV in Saratoga Springs, New York
    Transfered to 1st Regiment Independent Battery NY Light Artillery in April 1863.
    22 Feb 1865, died of disease in Washington DC

    Buried in Arlington National Cemetery

    Frank Alden
    Unassigned recruit, 11th Illinois Cavalry
    Enlisted Feb. 21, 1865
    Died March 1, 1865

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    Re: Illinois infantry men

    Daniel Oberheim (first photo)
    They don't have many records of him. What they do know is that he was from Mt. Carroll, Carroll county, Illinois. They don't know what unit he was with unfortunately, nor if he was KIA, wounded, or survived.


    Here is some information I found:

    Daniel L. Oberheim

    Residence Ward's Grove IL;
    Enlisted on 8/14/1862 as a Private.

    On 9/4/1862 he mustered into "A" Co. IL 92nd Infantry
    He was Mustered Out on 6/21/1865 at Greensboro, NC


    Don't be surprised by the conflicting residence information. This is the only name that popped up in the records and I only typed in 'D' for the first name. Carrol County & Joe Daviess Counties (where Ward's Grove is) are ajoining counties. Some further research may render more information, however I believe this to be a significant tie, especially with the same units.

    John Walsh

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    Re: Illinois infantry men

    For what's it worth, here is the information on Henry Weber.


    Henry Weber

    Residence Salem IL;
    Enlisted on 8/14/1862 as a Private.

    On 9/4/1862 he mustered into "I" Co. IL 92nd Infantry
    He was Mustered Out on 6/21/1865 at Greensboro, NC


    Other Information:
    Member of GAR Post # 80 (Nase) in Mt. Carroll, IL
    died 11/15/1915

    John Walsh

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    Re: Illinois infantry men

    Excellent info! Thanks very much. My gf's family is going to be happy that someone was able to help them out in finding a bit more info on their family. And you're right- the fact that he was in the same unit as Henry, and now they share a descendent, is really amazing!
    Thanks again!
    Kenny Pavia
    Si vis pacem, para bellum

    Proud Descendent of-

    Andrew Jackson Smith
    Born 11 July 1843, Greenfield, New York
    Enlisted 17 Feb 1862 in Co. C, 77th NYSV in Saratoga Springs, New York
    Transfered to 1st Regiment Independent Battery NY Light Artillery in April 1863.
    22 Feb 1865, died of disease in Washington DC

    Buried in Arlington National Cemetery

    Frank Alden
    Unassigned recruit, 11th Illinois Cavalry
    Enlisted Feb. 21, 1865
    Died March 1, 1865

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    Re: Illinois infantry men

    Very nice photos.
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    Re: Illinois infantry men

    Interesting Picture. Curiously enough I am in the middle of reading
    Three years with the 92nd Illinois The civil war Diary of John M. King.

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    Re: Illinois infantry men

    A question- can anyone identify the kind of belt plate that Daniel is wearing? I don't think its the typical US plate but maybe I just can't see clear enough.
    Kenny Pavia
    Si vis pacem, para bellum

    Proud Descendent of-

    Andrew Jackson Smith
    Born 11 July 1843, Greenfield, New York
    Enlisted 17 Feb 1862 in Co. C, 77th NYSV in Saratoga Springs, New York
    Transfered to 1st Regiment Independent Battery NY Light Artillery in April 1863.
    22 Feb 1865, died of disease in Washington DC

    Buried in Arlington National Cemetery

    Frank Alden
    Unassigned recruit, 11th Illinois Cavalry
    Enlisted Feb. 21, 1865
    Died March 1, 1865

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    Re: Illinois infantry men

    could be a milltia plate?

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    Re: Illinois infantry men

    Very good chance that it is an early war militia plate. Especially since they have on what appears to be 1 of the Illinois State Jackets. It appears that this company wasn't mustered into service until September of 1862. If you would like more info on the 92nd check out this site. Great photos by the way.

    http://www.civilwararchive.com/Unreg...linf7.htm#92nd
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    Re: Illinois infantry men

    For what it is worth..... those look like standard dress (frock) coats to me. Back in the day (ha ha) when we jined up to do Ill. reenacting we were told to get the Jarny trimmed shell jacket, 9 buttons, no epaulettes. And we did. Since then I've looked at a lot of Ill. CW soldier pics (but sadly not all of them) and I could count on one hand the number of images that fit that bill. If that many. Most of the jackets did not have the trim/piping. I won't say ALL because there is always one in the crowd. Likewise, most had epaulettes, I won't say ALL because.... well, you know the rest.

    And as far as the belt plate, I would guess that it is regulation issue and just doesn't show up well in the image.

    Was there any gilting done by the photographer? The first guy's buttons look done, obliterating any view of the eagle. Maybe its the same with the plate. The second image look heavily retouched. Or even a charcoal (?) copy based on (or over) the original image or albumen.

    My two cents worth...

    Thanks for sharing the images.

    John Pillers
    a Skulker

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