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    Mens Civilian Items

    I'm looking for a quality Frock Coat and Tail Coat that wont break the bank but still will be decent enough for authentic events such as westville, does anyone know of any person making Frocks and Tail Coats decently at good prices?
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    Re: Mens Civilian Items

    Hey,

    Check with Justin Morris. He may have a nice Sack Coat.
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    Re: Mens Civilian Items

    PM Sent


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    Re: Mens Civilian Items

    Quote Originally Posted by 508preach View Post
    I'm looking for a quality Frock Coat and Tail Coat that wont break the bank but still will be decent enough for authentic events such as westville, does anyone know of any person making Frocks and Tail Coats decently at good prices?
    Finding someone on Earth that can make a civilian frock coat and tailcoat like an original and for a price that doesn't break the bank would be nothing short of a miracle. There's a reason why very few people offer these garments and even fewer who make anything that resembles an original.
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    Re: Mens Civilian Items

    If some of these military suppliers would do a run once a year, I bet they'd find enough business to make it profitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMahone View Post
    If some of these military suppliers would do a run once a year, I bet they'd find enough business to make it profitable.
    A run of civilian frock coats, really? These things aren't as simple as producing 4-button machine sewn contract blouses, even Federal issue frocks are a cake walk by comparison (how many of those do you see on the market). I have two dozen original civilian frock coats and tailcoats in my collection, they are works of art and are beyond the ability of even some of our top makers to reproduce. Nothing about these coats lend themselves to modern mass production. They were made in a time when labor in this country was SUPER cheap (nobody cared about starving journeymen tailors and seamstresses going blind), so why not hand sew as much as you can even though sewing machines were available. Every time I make one of these things it's like running a marathon, by the time I'm done I'm totally worn out mentally from extreme concentration and I have to take a brief vacation to let my fingers heal.
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    Re: Mens Civilian Items

    Ian,

    Surely you recognize that the things that pass for authentic in this hobby are far inferior to the originals? Why should a civilian pattern frock be any different?

    he said with a smirk,
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    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMahone View Post
    Ian,

    Surely you recognize that the things that pass for authentic in this hobby are far inferior to the originals? Why should a civilian pattern frock be any different?

    he said with a smirk,
    True, in that sense a run of frocks would be entirely plausible.
    Ian McWherter

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    Re: Mens Civilian Items

    Have you tried Corner Clothiers, they do make civilian clothes also and Brian is a fine tailor.
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    Re: Mens Civilian Items

    The main problem with obtaining these two types of garment is that you have to really want one badly enough to pay for it in good money or time and effort.

    Probably the only way to get a good one for a low price would be if someone else gave it to you as a present.

    Joe, to do a run of these things, you'd either have to make them simple and ugly enough that everyone would complain about the quality, otherwise, they'd just complain about the price and not buy them.
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