Hi Folks,
I have the opportunity to buy this 1842 Springfield Rifled Musket, lock dated 1845. The barrel is 30" long. Am I correct in assuming that this musket has been sporterized and is not an as issued musket? Thanks in advance.
Hi Folks,
I have the opportunity to buy this 1842 Springfield Rifled Musket, lock dated 1845. The barrel is 30" long. Am I correct in assuming that this musket has been sporterized and is not an as issued musket? Thanks in advance.
Last edited by Cpl. Parker; 08-16-2010 at 05:35 PM. Reason: Clarification
Kevin Grant
During the American Civil War thousands of Canadians answered the American call to arms. Figures vary from 30,000 to 55,000 Canadians fought for both sides. With fatal casualty averaging one in five, as many as 11,000 died and with one in seven wounded up to 8,000 wounded. There were 19 Medals of Honor won by Canadians.
Hallo!
Correct.
Although it is "interesting" in that some one, some time, some place took some extra pains to make it look like the M1847 Artillery Musketoon but didn;t make it with the proper 26 inch barrel.
Often times, 'cut-downs' can be post War surplus "farmer's" or "poor man" shotguns sold commercially, or even individual guns sometimes very crudely "sporterized."
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Kevin,
It is NOT an "as issued" firearm.
It is cut down.
This maybe due to it having been damaged in some manner. This alteration may have been the most expedient way of making an otherwise unusable firearm serviceable.
Both Richmond and Macon Armories/Arsenals were known to do this to M-1842's in this barrel length.
Is the front band held in place with the barrel band spring? It is hard to tell in your photo.
Are you sure this firearm is rifled?
It appears that the nose cap is just friction fitted. I will have a better idea of all it's foibles when it arrives. Here is a closer photo of the nose cap. Thanks
Kevin Grant
During the American Civil War thousands of Canadians answered the American call to arms. Figures vary from 30,000 to 55,000 Canadians fought for both sides. With fatal casualty averaging one in five, as many as 11,000 died and with one in seven wounded up to 8,000 wounded. There were 19 Medals of Honor won by Canadians.
I believe 1847 musketoons utilized M.1841 rifle-size locks, too.
David Fox
Still and all, it would not be that hard to replace the barrel and forestock and have a fine re-enactor piece.
I have an original that is very similar to what you have. I was trying to sell it awhile back but I priced it too high. It is totally functional just needs a new nipple. I plan on using it eventually. Anyway here is the link to the original post so you can see some pictures...http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/...ht=Josh+Sawyer
Best Regards,
Josh Sawyer
Liberty Rifles
Gents,
I have a bit of a dilemma, Should I replace the nose-cap band spring in it's present position or cut the barrel back to carbine length? I favour leaving the nose-cap where it is and NOT to cut the barrel. Any thoughts or opinions appreciated.
Kevin Grant
During the American Civil War thousands of Canadians answered the American call to arms. Figures vary from 30,000 to 55,000 Canadians fought for both sides. With fatal casualty averaging one in five, as many as 11,000 died and with one in seven wounded up to 8,000 wounded. There were 19 Medals of Honor won by Canadians.
Kevin,
The CS modification(s) to this barrel length and the shorter 26" barrel used a "pan head" iron/steel wood screw to hold the front band in place. The body of the screw should be small enough in dia. to fit the hole in the band which was meant for the band spring. This wood screw simply screws into the stock through that same hole. No other modifications are needed.
You may want to check under the front band to see if there is a hole in the stock for where a screw "may" have been.
Should the front band have a sling swivel added/reattached, it seems more common that front band spring would be inlet to hold the band in place and support the weight of the firearm from a sling.
If you have never inlet a band spring before, I would suggest avoiding the attempt.
Just some thoughts on my part,
Blair,
Thank you very much for the excellent suggestion. I have inlet a band spring before but your idea is less damaging.
Kevin Grant
During the American Civil War thousands of Canadians answered the American call to arms. Figures vary from 30,000 to 55,000 Canadians fought for both sides. With fatal casualty averaging one in five, as many as 11,000 died and with one in seven wounded up to 8,000 wounded. There were 19 Medals of Honor won by Canadians.
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