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    Ordnance Records of Barksdale's Mississippi Brigade

    From the papers of Lt. William L. Allen, Ord. Officer, Barksdales Brigade. From Footnote. Items of note include one of the first times I've seen oilcloth haversacks mentioned in Ord. returns.

    Sept 5th 1862 (received from Div. Ord. officer)

    3000 Cartridges cal .69
    3000 Cartridges cal .54
    6000 Cartridges cal .57
    6000 percussion caps

    Sept 30th 1862 (received from Div. Ord. officer)

    13500 Cartridges cal .58


    Oct. 8th 1862 (received from Div. Ord. officer)

    3000 Enfield Cartridges cal .57

    Oct. 16th 1862 (received from Div. Ord. officer)

    10000 cartridges cal .57

    Nov. 28th 1862 (received from Div. Ord. officer)

    7000 cartridges cal .57
    5000 cartridges cal .54

    Dec. 12th 1862 (received from Div Ord. Officer)

    10000 Cartridges cal .57 or .58
    2000 Cartridges cal .54

    Jan. 15th 1863 (received from Div. Ord. officer)

    36 Spr Rifles cal .58
    26 Enfield Rifles cal .58
    50 Cartridge Boxes
    50 Cap Pouches
    50 Bayonet Scabbards
    25 ball Screws
    50 Waist Belts

    Jan. 25th 1863 (received from Div. Ord. officer)
    30 Springfield Rifles cal .58
    57 Enfield Rifles cal .58

    Jan. 30th 1863 (Issued to 21st MS)

    8 Enfield Rifles
    10 Rifled Muskets
    12 Cartridge Boxes
    12 Waist Belts
    12 Bayonet Scabbards

    Feb. 26th 1863 (turned in by 21st MS)

    6 Springfield Muskets cal .69


    Feb. 27th 1863 (Turned in by 21st MS)

    3 Enfield Rifles
    1 Austrian Rifle
    1 Miss. Rifle

    March 3rd 1863 (Issued to 21st MS)

    13 Spr. Rifle Muskets cal .58
    13 Cartridge Boxes
    13 Waist Belts
    13 Cap Pouches
    13 Bayonet Scabbards
    13 Cartridge Box Belts
    6 Screw Drivers
    5 Wipers

    March 10th 1863 (received from Div. Ord officer)

    50 Cartridge Boxes
    50 Waist Belts
    50 Cap Pouches
    50 Bayonet Scabbards
    25 Ball Screws
    26 Enfield Rifles
    36 Springfield Rifles

    March 23rd 1863 (received from Div. Ord officer)

    50 Richmond Rifles cal .58
    50 Set Accouterments, complete
    15 Screw Drivers
    15 Ball Screws
    15 Cones

    March 24th 1863 (Issued to 21st MS)

    12 Spring. Rifles cal .58
    12 Cartridge Boxes
    12 Waist Belts
    12 Cap Pouches
    12 Bayonet Scabbards
    12 Cartridge Box Belts
    4 Screwdrivers
    4 Wipers
    19 Haversacks (oiledcloth)

    March 28th 1863 (received from Div. Ord. officer)

    50 Spr Rifles cal .58
    50 sets of Accouterments complete
    6 ball screws
    25 screw drivers
    25 wipers

    March 31st 1863 (received from Div. Ord. officer)

    70 Rifles cal .58
    24 set Accouterments complete
    17 Cones
    17 Wipers
    17 Screw Drivers
    4 Arms Boxes

    April 1st 1863 (returned to Lt. Allen)

    36 Sprng Muskets cal .69
    5 wipers
    2 Arms Chests

    April 7th 1863

    10,000 cartridges cal .58

    Apr. 21st 1863 (Issued to 21st MS)

    96 Haversacks
    40 Canteens
    40 Canteen Straps

    Apr. 28th 1863 (Issued to 21st MS)

    102 Knapsacks
    15 Scabbards

    Aug. 30 1863 (Issued to 21st MS)

    28 Rifles cal .57/8
    29 Cartridge Boxes
    16 Cartridge Box Belts
    31 Waist Belts
    37 Cap Pouches
    29 Bayonet Scabbards
    2100 Cartridges cal. 57

    Sept 25th 1863

    27 Enfield Rifles cal .57
    27 Bayonets

    Nov. 21st 1863 (received from Div. Ord. Officer)

    14 Rifles cal .57 or .58
    17 Cartridge Boxes
    17 Cartridge Box Belts
    17 Bayonet Scabbards
    17 Cap Pouches
    40 Cartridges

    Nov. 25th 1863

    12000 Cartridges cal .57
    10000 percussion caps

    Jan 30th 1864 (Issued to 13th MS)

    43 Rifles cal .57 or .58
    20 Cartridge Boxes
    19 Cartridge Box Belts
    15 Waist Belts
    15 Cap Pouches
    15 Bayonet Sabbards
    1280 Cartridges cal .57 or .58
    80 Musket Caps

    Jan. 31st 1864 (Issued to 17th MS)

    3 Rifles cal .578
    2 Cartridge Boxes
    2 Cartridge Box Belts
    80 Cartridges

    Apr. 30th 1864 (Issued to 13th MS)

    77 Rifles cal .578
    36 Cartridge Boxes
    37 Cartridge Box Belts
    38 Waist Belts
    36 Cap Pouches
    37 Bayonet Scabbards
    1 Gun Sling
    1 Screw Driver
    32 Haversacks
    2 Canteens
    2290 Cartridges

    May 31st 1864 (Issued to 13th MS)

    11 Rifles cal .57-8
    60 Cartridge Boxes
    60 Cartridge Box Belts
    60 Waist Belts
    63 Cap Pouches
    59 Bayonet Scabbards
    2 Frogs for Saber Bayonets
    25 Haversacks
    50 Canteens & Straps
    21 Canteen Straps
    18326 Cartridges cal .578
    810 Musket Caps

    June 30th 1864 (Issued to the 13th MS)

    10 Rifles cal .578
    9 Cartridge Boxes
    15 Cartridge Box Belts
    11 Waist Belts
    30 Bayonet Scabbards
    11314 Cartridges cal .578

    Will MacDonald

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    Re: Ordnance Records of Barksdale's Mississippi Brigade

    Will, I am curious....where is this information "housed"? I understand its from Footnote but where is the repository? Please advise. Ken R Knopp

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    Re: Ordnance Records of Barksdale's Mississippi Brigade

    Footnote scans the microfilm from the National Archives into it's computer database. So the microfilm they use is housed at the Archives in Washington D.C. The link below is an old press release from NARA.

    http://archives.gov/press/press-rele...7/nr07-41.html

    Will MacDonald

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    Re: Ordnance Records of Barksdale's Mississippi Brigade

    Yes sir! The National Archives....Thank you! However, does Footnote- "footnote" the records? Then, am I correct to assume they came from the Confederate officers Service files for Lt. Allen? Hope so. Glad to see Footnote getting them up.
    I ask as a way to highlight some good sources of research. I have found these service files records are an incrediably deep source of wonderful information. One can find some incredible things under very obscure names. In this example, some gems were found concerning the arms, equipment, etc. for this unit. I have often found much the same when I did research. Sometimes, an obscure ordnance or quartermaster officer attached to a general will have a significant file of records and correspondencein his file. Especially relative to issue of arms and equipment and the nuances. Sadly, the way they were filed in the 1880's often one only finds one side of the correspondence but if you look at the "to or from" person's file you might find the other side of the correspondence. Anyway, some might find this interesting and fun.
    Another good source for similar AOT information is the state archives. For example, in Jackson Miss. they have the files of the Army of Mississippi and some for the AOT. Much of it under Hypolite Oladowski. HO was the chief ordnance officer. Great things there that you would not expect! Infantry is not my thing but I know there to be some good stuff (significant quartermaster and ordnance records) sitting there collecting dust that has not seen the light of day for a long time.
    About 15 or 20 years ago I was doing some research. Some of the documents had not been checked out since the late 1940's but, the person who last did so was no less that Frank Vandiver in his research for his book on Josiah Gorgas "Ploushares into Swords..." Not long afterwards I called him. He was delightful and told me wonderful stories about his research on this book which included visiting (at Gorgas home in Tuscaloosa Ala) and drinking Mint Juliups with two of J Gorgas surviving daughters during WWII! It was there, after a tedious, difficult, old South "courtship" of the old ladies that he was finally allowed access to an old trunk of Gorgas's personal papers, files and journals. This became another of Vandiver's wonderful books. Funny but sometimes our links are not so distant. Sorry to go on.
    Anyway, check out the state archives too. Especially Mississippi for you AOT guys. Good stuff there waiting to be discovered!

    Ken R Knopp
    www.confederatesaddles.com

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    Re: Ordnance Records of Barksdale's Mississippi Brigade

    I found the issue of canteen straps as a separate item to be very interesting. I have always thought canteens and straps were issued separately, but this was the first time I've seen actual issue records that show canteens and their straps as separate items.
    Bill Rodman, King of Prussia, PA

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    Re: Ordnance Records of Barksdale's Mississippi Brigade

    Willie Mac!

    Good stuff, brother. As soon as my ICC classes end, I'll have some time to help with the research. Shoot me an email sometime. Went to Twin Rivers. There is much to relate!
    Dave Ray
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    Re: Ordnance Records of Barksdale's Mississippi Brigade

    i am struck by the screw driver in the inventory and have wondered for some time how long that term had been in use. i had heard of "turn screws" and assumed these refered to today's screwdrivers. was the term a direct quote from the records? i sure they were calling them screwdrivers, i've just never actually read it.

    john gregory tucker

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    Re: Ordnance Records of Barksdale's Mississippi Brigade

    Decided to bring this back up to the top, as I haven't done very much ANV stuff lately.

    CSR of Col. J. Fiser, 17th Mississippi Infantry

    Ordnance Stores received July 20th 1862 near Richmond VA

    150 Belgian Rifles with Accouterments

    Ordnance Stores received July 28th 1862 near Richmond VA

    150 Austrian Rifles with Accouterments

    Ordnance Stores received Aug. 4th 1862 near Richmond VA

    8000 Rifle Cartridges cal .54
    1000 Musket Cartridges cal .69
    1000 Springfield Rifle Cartridges cal .57

    CSR of Col. W. Holder, 17th Mississippi Infantry

    Ordnance Stored received Aug. 20th 1861 near Leesburg VA (For Co. C)

    2 Muskets and Bayonets
    2 Complete Sets Accouterments
    4 Cartridge Boxes
    13 Canteens and Straps
    12 Knapsacks
    5 Belts

    Ordnance Stores received in the field June 28th 1862

    4800 Harpers Ferry Slugs
    5000 Percussion Caps

    Will post more later....

    Will MacDonald

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    Re: Ordnance Records of Barksdale's Mississippi Brigade

    Nice!
    150 Belgian Rifles with Accouterments
    -Bill Bosworth

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    Re: Ordnance Records of Barksdale's Mississippi Brigade

    Had the great good fortune to have Frank Vandiver as Provost at Rice University when I was a freshman and sophomore. He gave numerous informal history presentations on everything from the CW to chasing Pancho Villa. We loved them and his books. When he left for the same job at Texas A&M we were crushed.
    Soli Deo Gloria
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