Packaged Rounds for Shiloh

[PetePaolillo]

Kirby..How late in the war did they switch to labels? I posted stamped arsenal packs dated 64' and labels dated 63'. ???

[VA-Patriot'61]

Pete, you're completely right. On page 144 Roundball to Rimfire there is a '64 dated stamped St. Louis .58 cal arsenal pack, however the other 3 arsenal packs in cal. 58 shown from other arsenals are 1861 and before, they are stamped as well. I haven't found a picture of an original St. Louis pack to show the label being pasted on after packaging.

Personally I'm not getting bent out of shape over stamped vs. glued arsenal packs. I already rolled the St. louis elongated ball rounds according to the CRRC, packaged the 12 caps in the correct tubes. Since I'm not drawing them for me and someone else is using them, chances are they aren't going to care if I went the extra mile... Just my opinion, sorry if I just gave someone an aneurism...

[PetePaolillo]

Ha Ha....I hear you Kirby. I honestly wonder about those labels from the Bannerman collection anyways. I am in agreement with you that the stamped versions are more historically accurate but like you, I am more interested in the quality of the cartridges as well. I wish we could go now...I am ready . See you on the boat friend! Btw I just got my new 61' today and she is shining bright!

[redjoshman]

Hello,
This might be the wrong thread but I figured this would probably be the best place to post this. Anyway, I will be flying to the event and as one can not bring black powder and percussion caps on the plane per TSA regulations, I was wondering if someone would be willing to make up my rounds for me. I would to pay you for the service either at the event in cash or now via paypal. Once again any help in this would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Joshua Kerner

[Co D-1st FL]

For what it is worth Jack's Powder Keg will have arsenal packs available for sale on site. they are $10 for 40 rounds you will need to purchase caps from him, he has the 4 wing CCI caps available.

http://www.jackspowderkeg.com/

I would contact him to see if he will reserve some for you.

Hope this helps.

Jim

[PetePaolillo]

Also there is a gent named Mike Watson who sells the proper packs for 8.75 a piece with tubes. Pm me for his number.

[YankeeTiger]

I order from Mike all the time..still one of the best in the biz imo...
He will be @ shiloh w/ rounds to sell..but seeing as how wehave to turn ours in a registration, you might wanna go ahead and call him ASAP

[Horace]

I had not seen the unissued Bannerman labels before that were posted earlier in this thread.

I haven't seen any images of original St. Louis Arsenal cartridge packs with anything other than a stamp, in lieu of a label. All the images available on the internet show dates of 1863 or later, so I can't say for sure what they were using in '62. I can only go on original examples from '63 on.

Attached are images of four original arsenal packs, and a master sheet for printing out wrappers with a simulated stamp on them. The idea was to print out your own master on a computer printer, then print copies on a xerox machine, so the ink wouldn't run if wet. Also, move the master sheet on the glass a little between each copy, to simuate the wildly irregular positions of the stamps on the originals. That's why there are no cut lines on the master, just measurements of where to cut from each end of the sheet.

You can just run off 5 of them from a computer if that's too involved. Either way you should try to get hold of some 'paper bag' colored paper.

original St. Louis arsenal packs copy.jpgSt. Louis Arsenal stamp repro.jpg