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    Dead Rebs

    I'm sure most of you have run across this photo at one point or another. I thought it might be nice to post because of the things that stand out about this particular photo. These boys are lying in woods near Little Round Top. The poor departed soul in the middle of the photo stands out because of his bloated form. On a lighter note, don't those clothes look pretty dark?
    Source: CivilWarPhotos.NET #544
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    Re: Dead Rebs

    I always thought they were Federal. The Springfield and the dark hue of the uniforms being my substantiation
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    Re: Dead Rebs

    Greetings,

    These images are discussed at length in William Frassanito's "Gettysburg: A Journey in Time" and "Early Photography at Gettysburg." They are most certainly Confederate since, based on Frassanito's research, nearly all Federal bodies had been buried by the time the first photographic team arrived on the field (this was apparently no earlier than 5 July 1863). Frassanito also pinpointed the approximate location where the bodies were photographed and this was an area where Confederate forces had taken heavy casualties.

    The dark color of the clothing can most readily be explained by the fact that there had been heavy rainfall immediately following the Gettysburg battle, which had thoroughly soaked the men's clothes.

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    Re: Dead Rebs

    This is interesting:



    He's either wearing leggings underneath his trousers or his drawers got pulled out of his socks and are showing.
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    Re: Dead Rebs

    I just saw Frassanito's book...you guys are right...as usual. Good job.

    The shoe Jason posted looks like the same type of low-top seen in the center of the three Confederate prisoners at the rail fence.

    I can't get a decent enlargement of that shoe. If it is similar can someone please add it?

    See the post below, thanks Mark!
    Last edited by Vuhginyuh; 05-23-2004 at 12:42 AM. Reason: thanking Mark
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    Re: Dead Rebs

    Don't rightly know. Another possibility:

    The man isn't wearing socks at all: the "white stuff" is bloated, decomposing flesh (at the time the photo was taken, he had been exposed to the elements for approximately five days and was pretty ripe--ugh!).

    What are more interesting to me are the man's shoes. Unless I have lying eyes, the man is either wearing cut-down issue shoes or else low-quarters with strap-buckles.

    Attached is an extract from what I call the "Larry, Moe, and Curly" photo of the Confederate POWs. If you look at the guy in the center, he seems to be also wearing cut-down shoes similar to those seen in the above photo.

    Your thoughts?

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    Mark Jaeger
    Last edited by markj; 06-04-2007 at 04:11 PM.

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    Re: Dead Rebs

    Quote Originally Posted by markj
    Don't rightly know. Another possibility:

    The man isn't wearing socks at all: the "white stuff" is bloated, decomposing flesh (at the time the photo was taken, he had been exposed to the elements for approximately five days and was pretty ripe--ugh!).

    What are more interesting to me are the man's shoes. Unless I have lying eyes, the man is either wearing cut-down issue shoes or else low-quarters with strap-buckles.

    Attached is an extract from what I call the "Larry, Moe, and Curly" photo of the Confederate POWs. If you look at the guy in the center, he seems to be also wearing cut-down shoes similar to those seen in the above photo.

    Your thoughts?

    Regards,

    Mark Jaeger
    Thanks Mark, my thoughts exactly!
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    Re: Dead Rebs

    [QUOTE=markj]
    The man isn't wearing socks at all: the "white stuff" is bloated, decomposing flesh (at the time the photo was taken, he had been exposed to the elements for approximately five days and was pretty ripe--ugh!).

    What are more interesting to me are the man's shoes. Unless I have lying eyes, the man is either wearing cut-down issue shoes or else low-quarters with strap-buckles.
    [QUOTE]

    It's tough to make out, but I think you're right. Here's another view of the shoes from the right plate of LC-DIG-cwpb-00880:

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    Re: Dead Rebs

    Similar to these?

    This is a matching set, I don't know why one looks much larger...
    Last edited by Vuhginyuh; 01-20-2008 at 02:31 PM.
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    Re: Dead Rebs

    I am a little skeptacle on the color of the uniforms being attributed to being wet as Frassanito states. Unless there is some trickey light things going on why is the soldier in the foreground uniform a different color? There is obviously adequate light since all the bodies are shown in good detail.

    He gives another explenation that they actually have, matching trousers and jackets of a dark color and this is the one I like. There are actually three views of the same bodies (5 total) in the book. Frassanito states that at least two of the uniforms are dark. This would indicate that as he was studing the originals the other uniforms were a different shade.

    As for the shoes, I believe MB&S has the low quarter shoes with the strap fastening on his site.
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