Craftsman's Apron show.on.folder
+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Banjo keys

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Shawnee Mission, Ks.
    Posts
    359

    Banjo keys

    Banjo players,

    I'm curious as to what pitch most of us are tuning our banjos to. As we know, most of the sources available state that by 1860, the 'natural playing key of the banjo had been established as A major'.

    For myself, I love the sound of the A tuning on my banjo, but find it very difficult to sing alot of the standard minstrel songs in A or E. For that reason, I use the G tuning.
    Carl Anderton

    "A very good idea of the old style of playing may be formed by referring to the Briggs Banjo Instructor."
    Albert Baur, Sgt., Co. A, 102nd Regiment, NY Volunteer Infantry.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    AL, USA
    Posts
    75

    Re: Banjo keys

    I currently use the G-tuning as well. I not only play minstrel stroke, but clawhammer/frailing/old time as well. (Not at events, but for entertainment). Keeping it all in one key makes it simpler.

    I can drop it to C-tuning for some songs, but I hate trying to get gut/nylon/nylagut strings back in order with friction tuners after a change.
    Ben Thomas
    14th Alabama Volunteer Infantry, Co. G
    "The Hilliby True Blues"

    The Possum Skinners Mess

    "Non gratis anus opossum"

  3. #3
    michael01612 Guest

    Re: Banjo keys

    "A", really?!

    I don't have any sources to cite. But I thought the now regular banjo tunings of G and G-capo2-to-A and double-C and double-C-capo2-to-D were enabled by steel strings and stronger reinforced necks. I thought tunings with gut strings were lower ....like around D.

    I think Bob Flesher's book says something about this...I will check when I get home.

    Mike

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Emmitsburg, MD
    Posts
    452

    Re: Banjo keys

    I think we also have to take into consideration what pitch A (A above C) was. At various times in the history of music the pitch of A changed (currently A=440). It seems that during our period A was pitched higher than it is today. A good study of the history of musical pitch can be found here:

    http://www.mozartpiano.com/pitch.html
    Brian Koenig
    SGLHA
    Hedgesville Blues

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    San Diego, California
    Posts
    35

    Re: Banjo keys

    Hi Carl,

    I stay with Mr Briggs D/G tuning. Here is something else to think about. Next week, I should be getting those two original flutinas [1840's and 1850's] that I told you about. I believe that they are tuned to something close to C. That means that when the flutina was used in a minstrel band [usually in place of the fiddle], the banjo player would have to tune down even further. "tings ain't as dey used to was"

    Chris Ownby

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    The Citadel, Charleston, SC
    Posts
    48

    Re: Banjo keys

    I've always liked Double C

    Regards,
    ____________________________

    Hampton Cokeley

    Private for life

    Unattached
    The Citadel, The Military College of South Carolina


  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Wake Forest, North Carolina
    Posts
    20

    Re: Banjo keys

    I usually play in D (open like a modern G tuning). I'm afraid if I tuned to G it would eventually pop the head. Since I sing baritone/bass, D is the best fit. The banjo player in the movie Andersonville had his tuned to Dm, I think. That surely is a nice one.
    __________
    David Lanier
    3rd Sgt., Co. I, 6th NCST/69th NYV
    Chaplain, Camp #171, SCV, CWPT, MOS&B

    "The past is not really dead. It's not even past." William Faulkner

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Fenton, Michigan
    Posts
    51

    Re: Banjo keys

    Quote Originally Posted by michael01612
    "A", really?!

    I don't have any sources to cite. But I thought the now regular banjo tunings of G and G-capo2-to-A and double-C and double-C-capo2-to-D were enabled by steel strings and stronger reinforced necks. I thought tunings with gut strings were lower ....like around D.
    The "A" tuning shouldn't be thought of as today's more common tuning, but "Minstrel A/E", ie eAEG#B, 2 frets below todays modern G/C tuning. The "Minstrel D/G" tuning was dGDF#A, 5 frets below todays G/C tuning.


    I play mostly in A/E, becuase I like my strings a bit tighter than D/G. I can't sing worth a hill of beans, so tuning to D/G isn't really an issue for me...

    Quote Originally Posted by modelf85
    I've always liked Double C
    I thought Double C was a more "modern" tuning, not around during the time of the war.

    Weidich has some pretty good information on the history of the minstrel banjo and the development of the style and tunings in his new book. I just got my copy on Wednesday and all I can say is...

    "Oh lud gals!"
    Matt Adair
    Battery D, 1st Mich LA
    Dept. of Michigan, SUVCW

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Shawnee Mission, Ks.
    Posts
    359

    Re: Banjo keys

    [QUOTE=mladair]The "A" tuning shouldn't be thought of as today's more common tuning, but "Minstrel A/E", ie eAEG#B, 2 frets below todays modern G/C tuning. The "Minstrel D/G" tuning was dGDF#A, 5 frets below todays G/C tuning.


    Thanks, Matt.

    I used the term 'G' tuning 'cause almost all the tunes in the Briggs 1855 book are in G. In the Rice 1858 book, and the Buckley 1860 method, the tunes are written mostly in A. So, it is possibly more correct to tune our banjoes up to A(E) for Civil War events. But, dang it's hard to sing up there! Especially when you're trying to get that 'darkey' sound.
    Carl Anderton

    "A very good idea of the old style of playing may be formed by referring to the Briggs Banjo Instructor."
    Albert Baur, Sgt., Co. A, 102nd Regiment, NY Volunteer Infantry.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    San Diego, California
    Posts
    35

    Re: Banjo keys

    Hey Carl,

    When is your CD going to be finished?

    Chris Ownby

+ Reply to Thread

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. Gourd banjo songs
    By michael01612 in forum Music of the Civil War
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-19-2008, 12:32 PM
  2. Banjo for Sale Price Reduced
    By Doug Potter in forum Wanting to Sell
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-27-2004, 11:57 AM
  3. Minstrel fretless banjo for sale
    By Doug Potter in forum Wanting to Sell
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-25-2004, 02:54 PM
  4. Restoration project opens on Civil War-era fort off Florida Keys
    By BerkeleyBorderGuard in forum Civil War Preservation
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-07-2004, 08:35 AM
  5. Band, bugle, banjo
    By vbetts in forum Music of the Civil War
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-10-2003, 09:32 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts