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Well, I'm a guest of the possum skinners mess. I don't know how many of us will make up the company. I'm guessing most are from Georgia. I'm driving down from Virginia.John Calvin "J.C." Kimmer
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult and left untried." -G.K. Chesterton
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Gentlemen, Mr. Hancock should be sending me an e-mail list anytime now. As soon as he does I will be sending out a correspondence to everyone with any specific information and a listing of the NCO's and officers. It appears that we will have a full company. Please feel free to contact me here if there are any issues. Oh by the way I will be your First Sgt. I am very much looking forward to talking to everyone soon.
Take care,Eric N. Harley-Brown
Currently known to associate with the WIG/AG
"It has never been fully realized, nor appreciated by the people of the North-the great part in preserving the Union, the brave, loyal,and patriotic Union men, in the mountainous parts of the Southern states, rendered" - Orderly Sgt. Silas P. Woodall (2nd grt. grnd...) member of "Kennemers Union Scouts & Guides"-organized in Woodville, Alabama 1863.
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Originally posted by chaplain View PostWell, I'm a guest of the possum skinners mess. I don't know how many of us will make up the company. I'm guessing most are from Georgia. I'm driving down from Virginia.
Mr. Kimmer, you are a very welcomed guest, it appears there will be several of us present in this company. As far as state ratios I belive the Alabamians have the lead. With us Tenneseeans a close second.Eric N. Harley-Brown
Currently known to associate with the WIG/AG
"It has never been fully realized, nor appreciated by the people of the North-the great part in preserving the Union, the brave, loyal,and patriotic Union men, in the mountainous parts of the Southern states, rendered" - Orderly Sgt. Silas P. Woodall (2nd grt. grnd...) member of "Kennemers Union Scouts & Guides"-organized in Woodville, Alabama 1863.
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Well thanks so much. I've been looking forward to this event for some time. What part of TN are you from? I have family in Lookout Mtn.Originally posted by Mtn.Guerilla View PostMr. Kimmer, you are a very welcomed guest, it appears there will be several of us present in this company. As far as state ratios I belive the Alabamians have the lead. With us Tenneseeans a close second.
And, is there anything that's not on the bummers website, that is pertinent to the militia (or Hancock's Company specifically) that we should know before we arrive?John Calvin "J.C." Kimmer
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult and left untried." -G.K. Chesterton
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So, does anyone know exactly who we will be? Georgia in the War lists three units: 11th Inf Batt GA State Guard, 11th Inf Regt GA State Guard, 11th Regt GA State Troops. All different commanding officers are named:
And yet, for the weekend we will be "militia"- a term not used in the book. Was this a general term? According to the info posted on this link, Company E (11th GA Militia- Joe Brown's Pets) was formed of men from Stewart County:
Can anyone bring clarity to the militia/state guard/state troops issue?John Calvin "J.C." Kimmer
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult and left untried." -G.K. Chesterton
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Originally posted by chaplain View PostSo, does anyone know exactly who we will be? Georgia in the War lists three units: 11th Inf Batt GA State Guard, 11th Inf Regt GA State Guard, 11th Regt GA State Troops. All different commanding officers are named:
And yet, for the weekend we will be "militia"- a term not used in the book. Was this a general term? According to the info posted on this link, Company E (11th GA Militia- Joe Brown's Pets) was formed of men from Stewart County:
Can anyone bring clarity to the militia/state guard/state troops issue?
You are correct Co. E was primarily men from Stewart Co.That's a big topic ,sending you a PM.
Thanks,Last edited by Mtn.Guerilla; 10-17-2009, 01:09 PM.Eric N. Harley-Brown
Currently known to associate with the WIG/AG
"It has never been fully realized, nor appreciated by the people of the North-the great part in preserving the Union, the brave, loyal,and patriotic Union men, in the mountainous parts of the Southern states, rendered" - Orderly Sgt. Silas P. Woodall (2nd grt. grnd...) member of "Kennemers Union Scouts & Guides"-organized in Woodville, Alabama 1863.
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We will be portaying the 11th Regiment Militia, 4th Brigade, Georgia Militia Division. It has no conections with the three units listed. I will dig up more info but they are either part of Georgias attempt to have its own army or Militia units before the 1864 militia reorganization in Georgia.Originally posted by chaplain View PostSo, does anyone know exactly who we will be? Georgia in the War lists three units: 11th Inf Batt GA State Guard, 11th Inf Regt GA State Guard, 11th Regt GA State Troops. All different commanding officers are named:
And yet, for the weekend we will be "militia"- a term not used in the book. Was this a general term? According to the info posted on this link, Company E (11th GA Militia- Joe Brown's Pets) was formed of men from Stewart County:
Can anyone bring clarity to the militia/state guard/state troops issue?Jordan Roberts
Widow Makers Mess
Red Clay Volunteers
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The Preface to Joe Brown's Pets answers my question with precision:
John Calvin "J.C." Kimmer
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult and left untried." -G.K. Chesterton
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Once I get a chance, I will Post page Images From "Joe Brown's Pets." The exact muster roll is listed as well as officers.
J.C. was right on with the preface. It briefly explains (supported in later chapters) how the General Assembly of GA approved the reorganization of various militia units (such as the ones previously mentioned) on the 14th December, 1863. Thus the GA militia was reorganized into a division of 4 brigades, each consisting of 3 regiments.
If you cannot wait to take a look at the page image, it is all coming from Appendix 4 Roster of Georgia Militia. For Company E it lists a total of 28 privates, 3 NCOs, and 2 Captains from the time period before and up until Griswoldville...
Just to add a little to what Jordan said,
Company E's break down is:
1st Division-Georgia Militia:Commanded by Major General Gustavus W. Smith
4th Brigade-Georgia Militia:Commanded by Brigadier General Henry Kent McCay
11th Regiment: Commanded by Colonel William T. Toole
Company E: Commanded by Captain Charles C. Humbler & Captain C.A. Farwell
I would assume that this is still relatively accurate muster roll for the time period we are portraying.
Appendix 4 lists company E as having been raised from Stewart County.
One last thing, (though slightly irrelevant to bummers.) Company E would sustain the highest casualties in the regiment during the later battle of Griswoldville (14-15 Killed/Wounded.) :(
Hope this puts some useful info out there and helps answer some questions.
Anxiously awaiting 9 p.m. of November 13th!!!!!!
David NortonDavid Norton
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Thanks for the post David. All of this is exactly why I had suggested getting a copy of JB'S Pets, it really helps with insight into the company,and gives you a feel for what we're doing.
Take care,Eric N. Harley-Brown
Currently known to associate with the WIG/AG
"It has never been fully realized, nor appreciated by the people of the North-the great part in preserving the Union, the brave, loyal,and patriotic Union men, in the mountainous parts of the Southern states, rendered" - Orderly Sgt. Silas P. Woodall (2nd grt. grnd...) member of "Kennemers Union Scouts & Guides"-organized in Woodville, Alabama 1863.
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Gents:
If you are portraying an older militiaman rather than a teenager, one of the possible topics would be the 2nd Creek War, fought largely in Stewart County, Georgia (not to be confused with the contemporary 2nd Seminole War in Florida). Even if you did not "remove" to the county until after the war ended in 1837, you would know the stories and perhaps were exposed to the land while stationed there from the many companies from other Georgia counties who participated. Search for "Stewart County in the Creek War", Forts Clark and McCreary, the massacre at Roanoke, and the Battle of Sheperd's Plantation in 1836. I'm working with groups at Fort Benning to get an archaeological testing accomplished of the site of Fort Twiggs located on Upatoi Creek just off Main Post. These would be big doin's for a rural community still talked about 28 years later.
Dave
aka, an OLD militiamanDavid Stieghan
aka, DBAR1918
US Army Infantry Branch Historian,
Fort Benning, Georgia
Former Regular Army Field Artillery Caption, Disabled
Costumed Interpreter since 1973
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Originally posted by DBAR1918 View PostGents:
If you are portraying an older militiaman rather than a teenager, one of the possible topics would be the 2nd Creek War, fought largely in Stewart County, Georgia (not to be confused with the contemporary 2nd Seminole War in Florida). Even if you did not "remove" to the county until after the war ended in 1837, you would know the stories and perhaps were exposed to the land while stationed there from the many companies from other Georgia counties who participated. Search for "Stewart County in the Creek War", Forts Clark and McCreary, the massacre at Roanoke, and the Battle of Sheperd's Plantation in 1836. I'm working with groups at Fort Benning to get an archaeological testing accomplished of the site of Fort Twiggs located on Upatoi Creek just off Main Post. These would be big doin's for a rural community still talked about 28 years later.
Dave
aka, an OLD militiaman
Thanks that is a very valid point, and the common history of the county most definately would be a great topic, for first person discussion. Even if you are portraying a teenager, the are stories that most likely would have been passed on to you.
Here's a link to one account:http://files.usgwarchives.net/ga/mil...an/dec1835.txtEric N. Harley-Brown
Currently known to associate with the WIG/AG
"It has never been fully realized, nor appreciated by the people of the North-the great part in preserving the Union, the brave, loyal,and patriotic Union men, in the mountainous parts of the Southern states, rendered" - Orderly Sgt. Silas P. Woodall (2nd grt. grnd...) member of "Kennemers Union Scouts & Guides"-organized in Woodville, Alabama 1863.
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Originally posted by DBAR1918 View PostGents:
If you are portraying an older militiaman rather than a teenager, one of the possible topics would be the 2nd Creek War, fought largely in Stewart County, Georgia (not to be confused with the contemporary 2nd Seminole War in Florida). Even if you did not "remove" to the county until after the war ended in 1837, you would know the stories and perhaps were exposed to the land while stationed there from the many companies from other Georgia counties who participated. Search for "Stewart County in the Creek War", Forts Clark and McCreary, the massacre at Roanoke, and the Battle of Sheperd's Plantation in 1836. I'm working with groups at Fort Benning to get an archaeological testing accomplished of the site of Fort Twiggs located on Upatoi Creek just off Main Post. These would be big doin's for a rural community still talked about 28 years later.
Dave
aka, an OLD militiaman
Thanks Dave, that is a very valid point, the common history of the county most definately would be a great topic, for first person discussion. Even if you are portraying a teenager, these are stories that most likely would have been passed on to you.
Here's a link to one account: http://files.usgwarchives.net/ga/mil...an/dec1835.txt
Some info on the Battle of Shepards Plantation, etc: http://www.exploresouthernhistory.com/GAShepherds.htmlEric N. Harley-Brown
Currently known to associate with the WIG/AG
"It has never been fully realized, nor appreciated by the people of the North-the great part in preserving the Union, the brave, loyal,and patriotic Union men, in the mountainous parts of the Southern states, rendered" - Orderly Sgt. Silas P. Woodall (2nd grt. grnd...) member of "Kennemers Union Scouts & Guides"-organized in Woodville, Alabama 1863.
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