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  • BenjaminLDavis
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    Re: Overlooked in the reenacting world

    Originally posted by PalmettoGuard View Post
    Here's a few thoughts

    1. Battalion Level Drill
    2. Numerous boxes, crates, wagons and other supplies of war.
    3. Mules, mules, mules
    4. Good use Federal Frocks
    5. Fewer rations
    6. Coffee substitutes
    All of the above, plus more mules, as well as chickens, pigs, goats, cows,
    oxen, et al. And more conversations on politics of the day, and how it affects
    the everyday existence of the soldier and his family back home. And more
    mules, which means muleskinners.

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  • Silas
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    Period music on period appropriate instruments in period style.

    For example, some guy playing Cluck Old Hen on his metal stringed, resonator banjo in the clawhammer style is way out of place. I didn't notice how frequently people played the wrong songs on the wrong instruments until I started learning minstrel banjo.

    As far as fewer rations are concerned, few is a good way to describe what we had at the Chickamauga LH. Never been so thankful for a handful of rice before.

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  • PalmettoGuard
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    Re: Overlooked in the reenacting world

    Here's a few thoughts

    1. Battalion Level Drill
    2. Numerous boxes, crates, wagons and other supplies of war.
    3. Mules, mules, mules
    4. Good use Federal Frocks
    5. Fewer rations
    6. Coffee substitutes

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  • KarinTimour
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    To add to the list already mentioned:

    1. Knowledge of horses, horse furniture and horse manuvering. Even city people or those too poor to have a horse or mule themselves would have minimally known how to conduct themselves around a strange horse, how to walk around them, etc. Most people would also have known how to hitch one up to a vehicle and probably knew how to bridle and saddle one as well. I compare it to our present knowledge of cars -- while most of you know much more about how the car functions and can work on things under the hood, even I know how to change a tire, check the oil, water, gas and air in the tires, and when it's making strange noises I have at least a rudimentary idea, judging by the way it's acting up, where the problem likely lies (transmission, exhaust, muffler, etc.). I'm always on the look out for opportunities to gain comparable knowledge about equines, as I know I lack it.

    2. References to the Bible, Pilgrim's Progress and Shakespeare. My understanding is that these three books were very well known by even the roughest frontier families -- often whether the person could read or not. Reading Pilgrim's Progress is my first resolution for 2008. Another suggestion -- check out a DVD of any Shakespeare play. Sometimes I find reading them to be daunting until I get past the aspect of his poetic language. But this summer I found out how much that fades into the background if you're watching the play being acted out (or read). My public library has started having community readings of Shakespeare, and I got totally fascinated by, of all things, Henry IV!

    3. Knowing more than one verse to just about any period song -- they knew and sang ALL the verses to Dixie, John Brown's Body, Battle Hymn of the Republic, etc. We also don't sing as much as I think they did....

    4. Tree ID -- I think it was Hank Trent or maybe Charles Heath who said that period people looked at a random group of trees and saw "Walmart" -- they knew which tree was which, and the uses for the different types of wood.

    5. Period manners (or intentional lack thereof if that's consistent with the person you're portraying) when interacting with civilians. I know this can be a real minefield, especially for people who attend both mainstream and history heavy events. I don't want to leave the impression that I"m saying "All soldiers are rude" (though that might be highly appropriate in several contexts). But it's a real pleasure to get a chance to reenact with someone on the military side who can understand and appropriately react when interacting with period civilians. At an authentic event, if you spot a civilian coming toward you portraying a woman of good character (or at least not clearly trying to portray a woman of easy virtue), ask yourself if you've been formally introduced to her. If the answer is "no" then pretend she's invisible, unless she speaks to you. At mainstream events, the opposite is usually the case, and lifting your hat and saying "Ma'am" is pretty much expected universally there. Would be happy to explain this if people want to know why the difference exists. I know we've discussed it the past, but there seem to be a fairly large number of new posters here recently.

    Just a few that I've noticed,
    Karin Timour
    Period Knitting -- Socks, Sleeping Hats, Balaclavas
    Atlantic Guard Soldier's Aid Society
    Emal: Ktimour@aol.com

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  • Rob
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    Army paperwork - both writing it and reading it. (Being a clerk is somewhat useless if no one else gives a damn.)

    Writing letters in cursive with a dip pen and inkwell. No ballpoints, roller balls, or Sharpies, if you please. Not even a fountain pen.

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  • SCTiger
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    With a great year in reenacting behind me, I would agree with all the above responses, except there are some critical and missing elements.

    1. Continuity of time. We don't experience the sequence of events as they did. We are constantly looking for the "magic moments" and historical relevance. We jump from 1865 at one event to 1861 at the next. One event we are Federals, the next we are Western Confederates. Our impressions change every six months or every year, sometimes more often. It's like were some mad time travelers, stuck in the Civil War era. I feel like I should play the theme from "Dr. Who" before each event.

    Now let the booing and hissing begin because you-ain't-going-to -like, what I say next. For the 2010-2015 series of events, I would love it IF we actually followed a series of accurate, chronological events and dropped some of the perennials. We don't need a G-Burg every year, only a very good one every five. Same deal for every other "yearly" battle, however; there is too many egos to preserve and $$$ to be made. We end up spreading ourselves a mile wide and a inch thick by trying to take care of every game in town. Even Tier 2/3 events. We need to travel more and support relevant "non-local" "out-of-my-area-code" events. When you are "local"how about showing up en masse for that one? This would also mean leaving the sword in the trunk and grabbing a rifle every once in awhile.

    2. We also need to adhere to one impression for awhile, not only for gathering the proper gear, but for the underlying research and practice. Going to 3-5 different events each year and juggling the same amount in different impressions, doesn't improve our quality. It's a fractured way of following WBTS/ACW history. This also forces people to constantly buy gear, not to upgrade a current, continuous impression, but to meet ever changing "event standards." Does this really improve quality? Nope, but it does make our Buy, Sell, Trade forum a very active place.

    3. Quit talking about the next event at the event you are at. This drives me bananas. You are at an event, in the flesh. Yet there are some people who use the present event, to hock, plan and coordinate their next kewl event. They are never in the here and now. They show up for the event, greet and meet and s0metimes leave early. It's not their event, so why give it any genuine enthusiasm or support?

    4. Finally, Hang in there. The hobby is getting better, even if we gripe about it all the time. We just need to support each other more often and shed some of the politics.

    Happy New Year and don't forget that check to the CWPT or the ACPP before December 31st.

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  • 2ndNHDOC
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    News types.

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  • LWhite64
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    Well above all else, Knowledge of Period Politics and popular literature.

    Lee

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  • Vuhginyuh
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    Originally posted by Curt-Heinrich Schmidt View Post
    Hallo!

    1. The Civil War era mental and physical man.
    2. The Civil War era Material Culture
    3. The Civil War era History
    4. The Civil War era Social History of everyday living, functions, and activities.
    5. The melding of Nos 1-4 in the form of impressions, persona, and events.

    ;) :)

    Curt
    Knowledge of rural life, small parcel farming, subsistence agriculture & homesteading.

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  • Vicksburg Dave
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    These are not so much overlooked as ignored among reenactors in general:

    Age specific impressions. At some point, people should consider going over to something more appropriate for a 40 to 60 year old white haired male.

    Ditto on weight and general health. If participating in a run of the mill event jeopardizes your life, then you need to address some issues.

    And I agree with other posters on race and reenacting. We need QUALITY USCT impressions.

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  • coastaltrash
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    The Trans Mississippi and Department of the Gulf

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  • DougCooper
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    Originally posted by Kevin O'Beirne View Post
    The above seems to be a continuation of the juxtaposition of "guard mounting" with "guard duty". This is a very common reenactor mistake that drives me to distraction.
    Nonsense Kevin - I was simply listing two items that are poorly done. We all know the difference between the ceremony and the duty.

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  • ElizabethClark
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    Lack of societal context.

    We can all function in daily modern life--few of us could do the same in the period.

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  • jgr1974
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    I think the lack of civilian tradesman should be drawn upon. Not all men during the war were soldiers. KGC recruiters, abolitionists, Artists, Merchants and Tradesman. Civilians were employed by both sides of the War for manufacture of accouterments, drafting of patterns etc. I plan on doing a travelling leather worker. Repairing equipment in the field. Also Selling my wears to officers and soldiers alike. I think someone who learned cooper work would be a great additon to the hobby as well.

    We need to draw from our brothers of earlier periods for ideas. Many events provide period craftsman who do demonstrations for the public and reenactors between battles.

    MY 2c

    The Mad MIck!!!

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  • cap tassel
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    Originally posted by Greg Barnett View Post
    Although I agree with all of the posts thus far, I have to say I agree with Rob the most at this moment. Especially here in the south.
    Actually African-slave culture is another thing that should at least be recognizable by the civil war living historian even if there aren't any black participants present. Elements of it are found in every class level of white Southern society.

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