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1. M1816 Type 2
Originally in flintlock configuration but was converted to percussion later in life, and since reconverted back to flintlock. It is mechanically fine and functional. The bore is dark and would benefit from a good cleaning (or relining for an optimal shooter). The lock is dated 1823 Springfield but there is no mark on the barrel tang. There are some stock cartouches as well. The stock is in good condition for the age, without any major cracking sometimes seen on original musket stocks. The VP Eagle is mostly worn, but there are remnants of those stamps remaining.
This musket would be a great reenactor/shooter piece for the same price as a new reproduction, before having it defarbed, and much cheaper than an original configured flintlock.
$1600 shipped
I can add an original 16'' bayonet to the purchase for an extra $110.
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2. M1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifle Musket with probable 7th Wisconsin/Iron Brigade connection
The popularity of Austrian Lorenz rifles has exploded in recent years after decades of overlook by collectors, reenactors, shooters, and historians. As such, when they are found, they are often at times cleaned up or returned to resemble their wartime appearance.
In February of 1862, men of the 7th Wisconsin were issued the m1854 to replace their smoothbore muskets. These were flip sighted weapons, and also reamed and rifled out to .58 caliber to ease the difficulty of supplying ammunition in the Austrians' inconsistency caliber. According to a recently encountered letter, the 7th Wisconsin issued weapons were also changed from bright to blackened metal on a majority of the parts, and more importantly, the stock was also stained dark.
"The 7th Wisconsin was also issued Model 1854 Austrian Lorenz rifles in February 1862, but unlike the smaller caliber given to the 2nd Wisconsin, they were re-rifled or reamed up to .58-caliber—the standard being adopted by the army. One soldier said the new rifles were “colored black except for the lock guard and rammer, which are bright.” The rifles were four inches shorter than the old musket and half a pound heavier, he said, but “they carry very nice and much easier than the musket. So we are ready for the secesh now.” A few weeks later the beechwood stocks of the 7th Wisconsin rifles were bleached almost yellow by the elements and it was ordered they be “varnished” with a dark stain at a cost of ten cents to each soldier. The extra cost was met in ranks with “strong opposition.”
This m1854 rifle exhibits signs of being painted and stained darker. The stock has some light spotting that does not typically match the wood seen in m1854s. Usually, they have a blondish colored stock, or a nice medium brown. This particular stock has an unusually dark complexion in areas that do not match normally examined Lorenzes (and we've handled several dozen over the years).
The metal has a dark-colored shellac or paint over it. What most collectors or reenactors would be quick to assume as patina, does not appear to be so. A couple areas were cleaned off, and what lies underneath is smooth metal that never rusted. Most collectors will agree that finding a nice Lorenz is near impossible in the past ten-years, and when they are found, are usually in abused and attic condition at best.
What is presented here is likely one of the .58 flip-sight Austrian Lorenzes that has not been thoroughly cleaned over the years, completely erasing the oral and written history of the piece.
The stock has only a minor cracking nesr the nose cap, and the bore exhibits strong rifling. The metal is smooth and painted, and we would plead to have it remain that way. Without more substantial evidence, this rifle wpuld easily be in the five-figure range, but as the written and examined evidence is presented, we are reflecting this in the price.
At the very least, when you're reenacting the 7th Wisconsin Infantry of the most famous brigade in the Federal army during the war, you will have the most correct piece in the field, and perhaps reuniting it on some long ago visited battlefield the 7th had shed so much blood before.
$1700 shipped
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Originally in flintlock configuration but was converted to percussion later in life, and since reconverted back to flintlock. It is mechanically fine and functional. The bore is dark and would benefit from a good cleaning (or relining for an optimal shooter). The lock is dated 1823 Springfield but there is no mark on the barrel tang. There are some stock cartouches as well. The stock is in good condition for the age, without any major cracking sometimes seen on original musket stocks. The VP Eagle is mostly worn, but there are remnants of those stamps remaining.
This musket would be a great reenactor/shooter piece for the same price as a new reproduction, before having it defarbed, and much cheaper than an original configured flintlock.
$1600 shipped
I can add an original 16'' bayonet to the purchase for an extra $110.
(Click for Pics)
2. M1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifle Musket with probable 7th Wisconsin/Iron Brigade connection
The popularity of Austrian Lorenz rifles has exploded in recent years after decades of overlook by collectors, reenactors, shooters, and historians. As such, when they are found, they are often at times cleaned up or returned to resemble their wartime appearance.
In February of 1862, men of the 7th Wisconsin were issued the m1854 to replace their smoothbore muskets. These were flip sighted weapons, and also reamed and rifled out to .58 caliber to ease the difficulty of supplying ammunition in the Austrians' inconsistency caliber. According to a recently encountered letter, the 7th Wisconsin issued weapons were also changed from bright to blackened metal on a majority of the parts, and more importantly, the stock was also stained dark.
"The 7th Wisconsin was also issued Model 1854 Austrian Lorenz rifles in February 1862, but unlike the smaller caliber given to the 2nd Wisconsin, they were re-rifled or reamed up to .58-caliber—the standard being adopted by the army. One soldier said the new rifles were “colored black except for the lock guard and rammer, which are bright.” The rifles were four inches shorter than the old musket and half a pound heavier, he said, but “they carry very nice and much easier than the musket. So we are ready for the secesh now.” A few weeks later the beechwood stocks of the 7th Wisconsin rifles were bleached almost yellow by the elements and it was ordered they be “varnished” with a dark stain at a cost of ten cents to each soldier. The extra cost was met in ranks with “strong opposition.”
This m1854 rifle exhibits signs of being painted and stained darker. The stock has some light spotting that does not typically match the wood seen in m1854s. Usually, they have a blondish colored stock, or a nice medium brown. This particular stock has an unusually dark complexion in areas that do not match normally examined Lorenzes (and we've handled several dozen over the years).
The metal has a dark-colored shellac or paint over it. What most collectors or reenactors would be quick to assume as patina, does not appear to be so. A couple areas were cleaned off, and what lies underneath is smooth metal that never rusted. Most collectors will agree that finding a nice Lorenz is near impossible in the past ten-years, and when they are found, are usually in abused and attic condition at best.
What is presented here is likely one of the .58 flip-sight Austrian Lorenzes that has not been thoroughly cleaned over the years, completely erasing the oral and written history of the piece.
The stock has only a minor cracking nesr the nose cap, and the bore exhibits strong rifling. The metal is smooth and painted, and we would plead to have it remain that way. Without more substantial evidence, this rifle wpuld easily be in the five-figure range, but as the written and examined evidence is presented, we are reflecting this in the price.
At the very least, when you're reenacting the 7th Wisconsin Infantry of the most famous brigade in the Federal army during the war, you will have the most correct piece in the field, and perhaps reuniting it on some long ago visited battlefield the 7th had shed so much blood before.
$1700 shipped
(Click for Pics)
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