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  • #16
    Re: Your Choice: Standing Post-Mortem, or nice regulation armed soldier portrait.

    What the heck, might as well throw in too.

    Did anyone try to find into on the man thisis suposedly of, Elias A Whipple? Here's what I found through a quick Google:

    "39.Whipple, Elias A., Home: Almer, AAE: 19, Rnk: Pvt., DLE: 22 March 1864 Almer, Other Info: Died while on furlough, TLDD: Died Almer Mich. 20 December 1864. Cemetery Almer Township Caro Mich."
    Source: http://www.oocities.org/pvtchurch61/2inf/I/BioQtoZ.html


    I believe it was taken when he enlisted, not when he died. The evidence is all there: Clean uniform, shoulder scales, tiddy hair and face, black leathers, shiny rifle, shiny brass. And that the goofy-looking-left-hand, it's not so goofing looking if he's doing it by the book and if he's a fresh fish, everything was more likely "by-the-book":

    OK, ok, I know, he could have polished up while on leave to get this image done for his wife, sweetheart or mother. However, according to Michigan soldiers' records of service, he enlisted on March 22nd, BUT didn't join the regiment until June 27th, 1864

    Source:http://books.google.com/books?id=SnN...page&q&f=false:


    He had some ample time to get a nice studio shot in his new duds! The regiment traveled from big city to big city early in 1864 - Detroit, Annapolis and Washington.

    The puffy face. My dad gets that sort of face in photos, where the chin tucks in and makes it look a bit puffy at the throat; yes, I fear I may have this look at some point in my life! haha

    Anyhow, my few barks.

    Best,
    [SIZE="3"][FONT="Century Gothic"]Matt Mickletz[/FONT][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=4][SIZE=3][/SIZE][FONT=Garamond][COLOR="#800000"][/COLOR][I]Liberty Rifles[/I][/FONT][/SIZE]

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    • #17
      Re: Your Choice: Standing Post-Mortem, or nice regulation armed soldier portrait.

      Mutt

      My first gut feeling was that he or his Captain took those plates showing hand placement to an extreme. When I was new in the hobby there was some "expert" running around saying we should all be holding our hands like that! At any rate I think he is goofy, but not dead. Maybe he dropped dead when he returned home on furlough and found out his sweetheart had seen this photo.
      Robert Johnson

      "Them fellers out thar you ar goin up against, ain't none of the blue-bellied, white-livered Yanks and sassidge-eatin'forrin' hirelin's you have in Virginny that run atthe snap of a cap - they're Western fellers, an' they'll mighty quick give you a bellyful o' fightin."



      In memory of: William Garry Co.H 5th USCC KIA 10/2/64 Saltville VA.

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      • #18
        Re: Your Choice: Standing Post-Mortem, or nice regulation armed soldier portrait.

        Originally posted by hireddutchcutthroat View Post
        Mutt

        My first gut feeling was that he or his Captain took those plates showing hand placement to an extreme. When I was new in the hobby there was some "expert" running around saying we should all be holding our hands like that! At any rate I think he is goofy, but not dead. Maybe he dropped dead when he returned home on furlough and found out his sweetheart had seen this photo.
        I had the same experience with an "expert" and our company captain, Robert!

        Agreed, goofy but not dead. :tounge_sm Hummm, kinda like my dad again haha! Which means my son might write the same thing someday about ME!
        [SIZE="3"][FONT="Century Gothic"]Matt Mickletz[/FONT][/SIZE]

        [SIZE=4][SIZE=3][/SIZE][FONT=Garamond][COLOR="#800000"][/COLOR][I]Liberty Rifles[/I][/FONT][/SIZE]

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        • #19
          Re: Your Choice: Standing Post-Mortem, or nice regulation armed soldier portrait.

          If you guys want another original "post-mortem" image to mull over, consider this one. It is owned by Jack Mord, owner/operator of The Thanatos Archive of early post-mortem and mourning photography. Mord is also the guy who owns the 19th C. portrait of the Tennessee man who looks like actor Nicholas Cage...and subsequently asked one million dollars for it (down to $250,000 on Etsy).
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          Brian White
          [URL="http://wwandcompany.com"]Wambaugh, White, & Co.[/URL]
          [URL="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wambaugh-White-Company/114587141930517"]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wambaugh-White-Company/114587141930517[/URL]
          [email]brian@wwandcompany.com[/email]

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          • #20
            Re: Your Choice: Standing Post-Mortem, or nice regulation armed soldier portrait.

            Hallo!

            Now that one I can accept more "easily"...

            Curt
            Curt Schmidt
            In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

            -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
            -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
            -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
            -Vastly Ignorant
            -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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            • #21
              Re: Your Choice: Standing Post-Mortem, or nice regulation armed soldier portrait.

              Agreed. That one has the look of being artificially arranged: the way the skirt of the frockcoat hangs, the way his arms are tucked straightjacket-like, the closed eyes, etc. Does Mord give any background about the image?
              Paul McKee

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              • #22
                Re: Your Choice: Standing Post-Mortem, or nice regulation armed soldier portrait.

                As far as I know the medical officer image is not identified and has no further background. I can't remember where I first saw it...I think it was on eBay once upon a time and later sold by Dave Taylor, but I'm not 100% certain. Looking through the ACW Research Database I see twelve U.S. Volunteer medical officers who died in the service but this does not include those who are listed under each Federal state.
                Brian White
                [URL="http://wwandcompany.com"]Wambaugh, White, & Co.[/URL]
                [URL="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wambaugh-White-Company/114587141930517"]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wambaugh-White-Company/114587141930517[/URL]
                [email]brian@wwandcompany.com[/email]

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                • #23
                  Re: Your Choice: Standing Post-Mortem, or nice regulation armed soldier portrait.

                  You're right, he doesn't have any background info about it. Here's his page for it on Flickr:
                  http://www.flickr.com/photos/thanatosdotnet/6613547609/
                  Brendan Hamilton
                  Jerusalem Plank Road

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                  • #24
                    Re: Your Choice: Standing Post-Mortem, or nice regulation armed soldier portrait.

                    Jack Mord... what an ironic name.
                    Robert Johnson

                    "Them fellers out thar you ar goin up against, ain't none of the blue-bellied, white-livered Yanks and sassidge-eatin'forrin' hirelin's you have in Virginny that run atthe snap of a cap - they're Western fellers, an' they'll mighty quick give you a bellyful o' fightin."



                    In memory of: William Garry Co.H 5th USCC KIA 10/2/64 Saltville VA.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Your Choice: Standing Post-Mortem, or nice regulation armed soldier portrait.

                      That entire album is..odd
                      Aron Price
                      AG

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