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    Gents,

    For those of you with interest in attending the Franklin event as CS forces, let me direct your attention to an effort currently underway on the other side of the line.

    At present there is a battalion of seven companies in existance portraying the 6th/15th Texas Infantry. The battalion will contain 6 companies exclusively of Texans (the Red River Battalion and Texas Rifles, respectively) as well as a 7th company made of men from the Lazy Jacks Mess, the CHAP's, the Texas Groundhornets and a half-score of other units. A sizeable portion of the battalion will be the men who composed the Mansfield/Pleasant Hill Preservation March force.

    Specific impression guidelines are in the editing stages and will follow in the next few weeks.

    Here is what I've seen from our brigade higher-ups:
    "We [the Mississippi Valley brigade] will have three full size wagons, two hourse drawn 12 pounders, a hardcore cav escort, 400 to 500 infantry and our own authentic sutler traveling (with his own wagon) with the other wagons. Not to mention a static battery of 5 six pounders in support. I am looking for the battalion to have around 200 troops itself."

    It's a guess only but with 7 companies already on the ground the 200 man mark has been or will be shortly hit.

    Additionally, as is referenced in the post from Dom, the deadline to get registered at the cheapest price ($10) ends at the end of the month so please move promptly if you want to get before that expires.

    If you are interested in joining this effort, please contact me at baker@hendrix.edu

    Many thanks,

    Fred
    Fred Baker

    "You may call a Texian anything but a gentleman or a coward." Zachary Taylor

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    Re: CS Effort at Franklin

    Fred, Prehaps you could inform the folks a bit more what to expect. For example we are going all tactical all weekend. All first person based upon actual men who served in the 6/15th Texas, and who the chain of command shall be.
    By the way you forgot to mention 6th Texas, Company K is gonna be the color company but Ill let that slide.

    Dusty Lind
    Dusty Lind
    Running Discharge Mess
    Texas Rifles
    BGR Survivor


    Texans did this. Texans Can Do It Again. Gen J.B. Hood

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    • #3
      Re: CS Effort at Franklin

      Make it 8 companies. Cleburnes is in.

      Orphans may apply within.

      looking forward to it,
      Joe Smotherman

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      • #4
        Re: CS Effort at Franklin

        Joe, Wonderful news. This event is gonna be another dandy for sure. The night engagement will be closed to all excpet those directly on the field, no one from the camps, spectators, or just the curious.
        The authenticity bar of The Red River Battalion is being raised. I hope to see ya'all on the field.
        Dusty Lind
        Running Discharge Mess
        Texas Rifles
        BGR Survivor


        Texans did this. Texans Can Do It Again. Gen J.B. Hood

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        • #5
          Re: CS Effort at Franklin

          Cleburne's will be there (I mean it IS Franklin) and guidelines for those wishing to come with us are on the Cleburne's website. I'm looking forward to going with the 9th.
          Patrick Landrum
          Independent Rifles

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          • #6
            Re: CS Effort at Franklin

            To save time and headaches in searching for the Cleburne's website, click on the link below to see Cleburne's guidelines for the Franklin event.

            Guidelines for Franklin
            Jason Lewis

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            • #7
              Re: CS Effort at Franklin

              It should be noted that those guidelines were written prior to our commiting to the RRB effort. They are not the official RRB guidelines. I suspect they are close, though.

              Just keeping it real.
              Joe Smotherman

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              • #8
                Re: CS Effort at Franklin

                Almost word for word on the guidelines with our company Joe. We do know from a letter of a soldier in the 6th/15th Texas that they stumbled on a pile of fed knapsacks "as high as a house" after Atlanta so double bags are a good call. We have Isaac and Campbell imports as a distant third choice. Of note, an outstanding seamstress is making a very accurate copy of the regimental flag for the event - see Echoes page 270.
                Soli Deo Gloria
                Doug Cooper

                "The past is never dead. It's not even past." William Faulkner

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                • #9
                  Re: CS Effort at Franklin

                  "Of note, an outstanding seamstress is making a very accurate copy of the regimental flag for the event - see Echoes page 270."

                  Doug, FYI, flag is completed, 100% had sewn and as close as we can get without taking the flag from Austin. With help from the State of Texas, Fonda, Mark Dolive and is marked as a REPOP so it's can't be sold as an original. Also, the flag in EoG is upsidedown.

                  Tom Stuart
                  AAG MVB

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                  • #10
                    Re: CS Effort at Franklin

                    Kinda funy and Ironic that ya'all have gone from the 15th Texas Infantry at Mansfield and now to the 15th Texas Cav (dismounted) at Franklin. So tell me are ya gonna do the dance of the saber fairies? (Boy am I gonna catch flak over this post).

                    Dusty
                    Dusty Lind
                    Running Discharge Mess
                    Texas Rifles
                    BGR Survivor


                    Texans did this. Texans Can Do It Again. Gen J.B. Hood

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                    • #11
                      Re: CS Effort at Franklin

                      Dusty, what would a webfoot know about saber fighting ?

                      S.B. Dunn
                      D Co. 4th Va. Cavalry


                      "Gimme yore Crackers boys, I'll do yore fightin' for ya"

                      Battle cry of
                      Lt St. Pierre Gibson
                      D co. 4th Va. Cavalry---The Little Fork Rangers

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                      • #12
                        Re: CS Effort at Franklin

                        Yeah, at our next event we are going to be the 15th TX ungunned artillery... :wink_smil

                        Seriously, every Texas soldier wanted to be in the cav - the demographics and geography of the state dictated most folks went around that way anyway and owned their own animals.

                        The State and CS authorities quickly found out that they needed foot soldiers, not cav...so a majority of the regiments were dismounted. As you can imagine this was not looked upon favorably by these "high spirited" independent men. Dusty tells the story of the 2nd Texas Cav retaining their horses at gun point when ordered to give them up...the authorities were persuaded to look elsewhere for infantrymen.

                        I have often wondered why some of the mainstream units who are CS reenactor dismounted cav don't look to some of the hard fighting dismounted Texas units as an example. There is a group out here that insists on doing Terry's Texas Rangers with nary a horse in site...but then again, the 15th TX Dismounted Cav and others did not drag sabres around or wear yellow trim...so I guess that would not do :sarcastic
                        Soli Deo Gloria
                        Doug Cooper

                        "The past is never dead. It's not even past." William Faulkner

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                        • #13
                          Re: CS Effort at Franklin

                          Doug, I hear you. My response was guided by the fact that our unit does not participate in the "dance" you mentioned, and was my sole motivation. We do saber CHARGE, however, patterning ourselves as close to original CW cav tactics as possible, which is described in numerous accounts, the most notable being the vicious, swirling saber charges in all four battles at Brandy Station. We charge at the gallop, maintaining two solid ranks, reduce to the trot imediately before impact (for safety's sake), hit like a freight train, then rally, regroup, and immediately charge. With the exception of some of the USV groups, very few units can withstand this. Our second and third rallies and charges are normally against confused, disorganized, masses of fellas looking to "dance", but we never get sucked into this.

                          Unlike you Western brethren, our particular regiment was noted for saber fighting (thus they had to be carrying sabers). The fellow I base my impression on, First Lieutenant St. Pierre Gibson, of Rixeyville Va. (12 miles from my home) had a reputation as a terrible opponent to face with a saber, in fact he beheaded two Yanks with single blows. He was killed at Westminister Maryland in a running fight where 800 Confederate horsemen attacked and scattered 1500 Union Cavalry, and was one of only two Rebels killed in that fight, while the Yanks lost 28! At our first ordinance issue, immediately after First Manassas we were issued 147 sabers.

                          While we attend mostly mainstream events, the only mainstream thing about us is our camp. We're careful to hide the coolers and drink our libations from a mucket, but we do have too much canvas. At a re-enactment two years ago, collectively as a unit, we tossed all our cots into the fire, and have slept on the ground ever since. Part of my job as Adjutant has been to improve authenticity, so this was a great moment for me. We do favor the Texas style of too many pistols, but this is steadily improving. The men are learning the advantages of fighting with carbines, from horseback and on foot, and this is definately an improvement.

                          Out of 23 dedicated riders, there's not one piece of "farby gold" to be seen except for LT stripes and NCO insignia. We had two guys who insisted on wearing it, one time they went to the Lt to complain about all the sheeeet they were getting, and he told them to go join a "staff" unit. No ostrich plumes either.

                          Although we're not attending Franklin as a unit, many of us are attending in the First Confederate Division. You will have no problem spotting us, we'll be riding around hellbent for leather, screaming like Irish Banshees, and I can guarantee you won't see us dancing with any fairies.

                          As a Cavalry soldier, I can tell you there is no greater rush than flying across some field in a tight formation directly at an approaching unit. That crash on impact, man, that's almost as good as sex!!

                          S.B.Dunn

                          "Gimme yore crackers boys' I'll do yore fightin' for ya"

                          1st Lt. St. Pierre Gibson
                          D Co. 4th Va. Cavalry--The Little Fork Rangers

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                          • #14
                            Re: CS Effort at Franklin

                            SB - I was responding to Dusty's comments, not you - no worries. He was just kidding about the sabre dancing.
                            Soli Deo Gloria
                            Doug Cooper

                            "The past is never dead. It's not even past." William Faulkner

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                            • #15
                              Re: CS Effort at Franklin

                              I'm wondering where can I find info on the 6th/15th TX.Maybe online perhapes.
                              Cullen

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                              Cullen Smith
                              South Union Guard

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