Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...

[guad42]

Re: Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...

I'm missing something here, I guess. 1. A black man fighting for the South, and 2. The South being portrayed as anything other than toothless, bloodthirsty hillbillies.

Tell me how that's P.C.

Also, I've got to go throw it in the ol' DVD player right now. I never noticed Caviezel's leather cap, and now I have to see it for myself. That guy's from my birthplace; I've got my street cred to consider here.

Respectfully,

Well, I wasn't really saying the RWD is PC, in fact I believe it is wonderfully, non-PC - I meant flawed (such as Caviezel's cap - strange monolog delivery by Quantrill etc) My comment of PC stuff more or less applied to other pictures.

Since Cold Mountain (horribly flawed) has there really been any big budget treatment of the CW?

-Sam Dolan

[Mcouioui]

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I it is Glory who continues to make me most vibrate... :wink_smil

[csabugler]

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Curt, haven't seen "long Riders" in a lot of years, seem to recall it is pretty good. watched 'cold Mountain" again in parts the other night. That is a hat makers nightmare to say the least!!!

[Curt Schmidt]

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Hallo!

"The Long Riders" is about the post War James'/Youngers gang.

Curt
Cringing before the Louis Amour book movies with Tom Selleck and Sam Elliott are mentioned Mess

[mtvernon]

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Some films turn out to be flawed, decent works (Ride with the Devil among them) and some are just exercises in politically correct plot lines.

I'm missing something here, I guess. 1. A black man fighting for the South, and 2. The South being portrayed as anything other than toothless, bloodthirsty hillbillies.

Tell me how that's P.C.

Also, I've got to go throw it in the ol' DVD player right now. I never noticed Caviezel's leather cap, and now I have to see it for myself. That guy's from my birthplace; I've got my street cred to consider here.

Respectfully,

[Spewy]

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Whats really sad is that all the stuff the Hollywood "Crap Factory" turns out from time to time makes a film like "Ride with the Devil" seem not so bad by comparison. It was ok for what it was but it had all the authenticity of a polyester sack coat or should I say Jim Caviezel's leather Kepi.

[Propwash]

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Anyone remember the 1980 movie : ' The Long Riders' I

believe it covers the same era as Ride with the Devil. I dont believe I've see the 'Long

Riders' since 1980,so I cant recall it's relative merits. I did like it though.

Several sets of acting brothers played in the flick. the Keaches,Carridines,Quaids,and the Guests. Playing James,Youngers,Fords.

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[mslaird]

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Some films turn out to be flawed, decent works (Ride with the Devil among them) and some are just exercises in politically correct plot lines.

Even more disturbing are the movies that make overt references to modern day political events and feelings toward the military.

[guad42]

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The problem with so many of these films is that like all historically based projects they become part of some agenda, or in the very least the storytelling arcs call for unfortunate jabs at history and truth. I can't imagine there's a couple of execs at Warner Brothers sitting around one afternoon yelling "Hey Sal, let's make that Wilson's Creek epic we always wanted to do!".

Some films turn out to be flawed, decent works (Ride with the Devil among them) and some are just exercises in politically correct plot lines.

However, I have long wondered why someone has not produced Sam Watkins story as a film or tv project, it seems almost like an obvious choice.

[Csayankee]

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All I know is when I was in Jr. High I had the biggest crush on the woman that played Madeline in North and South. Cant really remember much of the movie though just her madelines
Cheers
Terry Sorchy

Terry for your viewing pleasure: Her name is Lesley-Anne Down, also in "Days of our Lives" and Bold and the Beautiful. :D

[redroosterinalabama]

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I have enjoyed "Pharoah's Army". Have others seen it? Close up view of neighbors fighting neighbors. Reminds me of the Balkans.
redroosterinalabama

[Pvt Peck]

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Better than "Goats & Genitals."

Rick Keating

BWAHAHAHAHA!! I almost spat my drink out reading that !

Edward Parrott

[Rick Keating]

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I also thought "Pharoah's Army" was a decent film. Better than "Goats & Genitals."

Rick Keating

[nrandolph]

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Happy New Year to all!
It seems as though this topic comes up about once every six months, but I'll make a contribution anyway.
Ride With The Devil is my favorite. Yes, it has some moments that aren't very good, but the dialogue and pacing of such sounds correct most of the time...you do have to overlook some clothing issues. It has Jewel, and that makes up for some shortcomings!
I always liked Jimmy Stewart's Shenandoah as a kid. It got me even more interested in the CW. It's appropriately sentimental as the period was then.
Here's a trivia (or trivial) movie for you, Martin Sheen in a movie filmed here in WV called No Guns, No Bugles. A Confederate deserter trying to get away from everyone.

Neil Randolph
1st WV

[Mark B]

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Happy New Year!

I've always enjoyed Jimmy Stewart in Shenandoah (1965).