Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

[DavisKujala]

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[advanceguard]

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This is a very informative (and short) video on tying a cravat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1zECuJzThQ

[cjc]

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I have two ideas. Either the men in the period photographs, dressed nice with top hats and cravats for the camera, or they had different standards for dress back then. Even the homeless had their standards. A lot of the paintings and photos of the lower class have the bums and "trash" wearing top hats and coats. Granted, they where probably found in the trash, but they still tried to dress nice.

Caleb Courtney

[fedhead]

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They are both amazing images of working class men,

[Elaine Kessinger]

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Actually, more than one have cravats... and a coupla neckerchiefs are depicted too.

[fedhead]

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Here is a image of workmen rebuilding crystal palace 1852-54 in Great Britain , notice one has a cravat,

Some more same site and date

[James A. Page]

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Here's another. Some kind of tradesman, note the apron/coveralls and overshirt worn underneath the coat----also wearing a cravat.

[tsgalloway]

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Tom,
Thanks for posting your photo. Awesome!

[Secesh]

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Here is a pic from my collection of Joshua W. Whaley, Co. G, 34th Alabama Infantry sporting his plaid cravat...

[viceroy]

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Now iron the edges of the part of the cravat to be tied towards each other. This will make the ends easier to tie and form a neat knot. The part of the cravat that will go around your neck will remain 3" or however tall you decide to make it:



Now you're ready to tie your cravat, have fun.:)

Thanks for posting. I usually press mine about 3" across and wear it that way, but I like what you have done here. May I ask, after you make the above noted pressing, do you then sew it up to make the folds permanent?
Thanks again.
Den

[fedhead]

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i just wondered where the four handed knot features in this debate?

[Mark Choate]

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Folks,

With this year and next containing the early war "150's" and thus showcasing the civilian soldier and civilian impression, I think this thread needs to be bumped up for consideration by us all. This is a veritable "clinic" on the subject of Cravats and when, how and who wore them. This is a neglected detail that was so very prevalent in the 19th century and as such this thread bears repeating.

Thanks to Ian and the others who created it.........................enjoy!

Mark

[Son of Eire]

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Too good not to BUMP!

[PogueMahone]

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With respect to the QM picture and the shirt sleeve vs coat issue, I would be wary of drawing any "fashion" rules from it. After all, it is a picture taken in a work setting, associated with a military purpose and a scenario populated strictly by males, where I suspect females were not expected to make their appearance. Guys being in an environment by themselves behave differently than in "polite" company ;). As with the picture of the Christian Commission in the haversack thread, this is a specific situation with a specific task and we should be cognizant of context. While these gentlemen would be seen wearing the same clothes to/from work, I believe many of the shirt sleeves would disappear enroute covered by a coat and topped off with appropriate headgear.

For all we know, these fellows were just coming back from a cockfight and stopped for the image to be struck. Maybe they had a fire drill and appropriately ran out without stopping to dress themselves. Perhaps it was the foreman's birthday and some of them had just given him a spanking.

Context is a funny thing.

[OlszowyTM]

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With respect to the QM picture and the shirt sleeve vs coat issue, I would be wary of drawing any "fashion" rules from it. After all, it is a picture taken in a work setting, associated with a military purpose and a scenario populated strictly by males, where I suspect females were not expected to make their appearance. Guys being in an environment by themselves behave differently than in "polite" company ;). As with the picture of the Christian Commission in the haversack thread, this is a specific situation with a specific task and we should be cognizant of context. While these gentlemen would be seen wearing the same clothes to/from work, I believe many of the shirt sleeves would disappear enroute covered by a coat and topped off with appropriate headgear.