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**ScottCross** · 08-18-2009, 12:31 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

Actually, he is wearing the early Wisconsin State issue Fatigue Blouse: Stand-up collar; dark blue flannel wool; five button front with three-piece State of Wisconsin buttons. The odd belt (if you can call it a belt) and pistol are probably photographer's props. Go to the Wisconsin Historical Society website, and you will find this same coat. Look at the images of members of the 15th Wisconsin:

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=25425

Also, it was not uncommon for some of these early Wisconsin Regiments to add the regimental number and Company letter to their collars. Looks like he may be 11th Wisconsin Infantry. This is a very cool image and quite rare.

**rogue** · 08-18-2009, 04:26 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

Scott,
Not to completely burst the bubble of this being a rebil, could it not be the image of a soldier from the SOUTHERN part of Wisconsin, say Milton?
I agree, he has Wisconsin (in the coat) proclaimed aloud. And to be politically incorrect, looking at him he also resembles a Scandinavian "square-head" in my opinion only perhaps, Private Ole Olsen, Anderson or the like.
"H" on one collar, what is on the other?
S.Sullivan

**Mr.Jerry** · 08-18-2009, 05:40 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

haha!
Thanks guys, well that does make more sense turning up on my doorstep here "behind the cheddar curtain".

Here is a close up. Sadly probably more photographers art than image:

**ScottCross** · 08-19-2009, 12:49 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

Originally posted by rogue View Post

Scott,
Not to completely burst the bubble of this being a rebil, could it not be the image of a soldier from the SOUTHERN part of Wisconsin, say Milton?
I agree, he has Wisconsin (in the coat) proclaimed aloud. And to be politically incorrect, looking at him he also resembles a Scandinavian "square-head" in my opinion only perhaps, Private Ole Olsen, Anderson or the like.
"H" on one collar, what is on the other?
S.Sullivan

Actually, the number could be a 15, which would explain the "Square-head" you are seeing, I think the 15th was so heavily Norwegian, all commands were given in that language.

**CompanyWag** · 08-19-2009, 01:03 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

Greetings Jerry,
I usually see your postings on WAF & been in your shop from time to time...didn't expect to ever see you over here.

I think you have the correct answer from pards Scott and Steve. I can't add anything else other than to note that this is still a desirable image even if from no further south than Beloit.

Paul McKee

**ScottCross** · 08-21-2009, 12:47 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

From the enlargement I'm fairly certain the number is indeed "15", which would be Colonel Hans Heg's regiment (KIA at Chicamauga). Company H, like all the other companies, was heavily Norwegian in ethnic makeup. Sorry Steve, only two Ole Olsons in that company, and two Ole Hansons!:wink_smil

**rogue** · 08-21-2009, 01:01 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

Some time ago I bought a model 1842 sight unseen that had hung on the wall of a bar in a small southern Wisconsin town. Hard to imagine a small southern Wisconsin town without a bar. In any event when it arrived, heavy laden with cigarette smoke patina, the attached will show what was on the butt, after much careful cleaning.
I am sure, positive, it is the one shown in the original image! (only ten regiments off!)
S.Sullivan
half serious, not!

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**Mr.Jerry** · 08-26-2009, 10:37 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

Thanks everyone for their thoughts. I am going with a WI regt.
Nice rifle marking too!

**Brent Brumagin** · 09-19-2009, 09:01 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

Mr. Jerry,

Could you please repost this image. I have been unable to get it to load. Thank you.

Brent Brumagin

**Mr.Jerry** · 09-19-2009, 09:06 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

Sorry,
I am unable to post attachments so I had to embed it.

**lojafan** · 09-20-2009, 02:03 AM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

That is a great photo! Very unique... I've never seen one like this before!

**ScottCross** · 10-16-2009, 09:47 AM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

Originally posted by ScottCross View Post

Actually, he is wearing the early Wisconsin State issue Fatigue Blouse: Stand-up collar; dark blue flannel wool; five button front with three-piece State of Wisconsin buttons. The odd belt (if you can call it a belt) and pistol are probably photographer's props. Go to the Wisconsin Historical Society website, and you will find this same coat. Look at the images of members of the 15th Wisconsin:

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=25425

Also, it was not uncommon for some of these early Wisconsin Regiments to add the regimental number and Company letter to their collars. Looks like he may be 11th Wisconsin Infantry. This is a very cool image and quite rare.

Here's two more images showing the Wisconsin fatigue blouse, that just came up on eBay. These fellows are from the 12th Wisconsin:

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http://cgi.ebay.com/tintype-of-an-armed-12th-Wisconsin-Inf-soldier_W0QQitemZ290360307631QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item439ad2afaf

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http://cgi.ebay.com/armed-12th-Wisconsin-Inf-soldier-grouping_W0QQitemZ290360306577QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item439ad2ab91

**Mississippian** · 10-16-2009, 04:42 PM

Re: Unknown North/South Soldier Tintype

Now would these coats have had Wisconsin state buttons on them? The other day I was out at Grenada Lake and saw a dug CW-era Wisconsin button that was recovered from the Water Valley MS area. I suspect that it came from one of the advanced camps of Grant's failed attempt to advance down the Central MS Railroad in Dec. of '62. It interested me because I had never seen a state button issued from the Midwest before.

Will MacDonald
TBM/WIG