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  • Close-Up Image - Unidentified Officers and Men

    Greetings!

    For tonight's Close-Up Image, we go to another wonderful photo from the Library of Congress. This is listed on the LOC simply as a "Group of Officers and Men". What are your impressions of this series of images? Do you have a guess about year, theater, regiment? What do you think?

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    Here is the link to the Library of Congress Listing:

    http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2013648705/
    ERIC TIPTON
    Former AC Owner

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    Re: Close-Up Image - Unidentified Officers and Men

    I don't have a definitive answer, but the man seated second from left in the second picture down looks like he has some sort of Zouave jacket. Might be a clue
    Jim Taub
    The Western Rifles

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    • #3
      Re: Close-Up Image - Unidentified Officers and Men

      I also saw the zouave type jacket, but really don't have an idea which unit this is. However, one of the soldiers does have a nice pipe and I think I may have its twin.
      Pvt. Rudy Norvelle
      20th Maine Vol Inf Co. G
      Third Brigade, First Divison, Fifth Corps
      Army of the Potomac

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      • #4
        Re: Close-Up Image - Unidentified Officers and Men

        Interesting how the Orderly Sergeants are bunched together.
        Ken Cornett
        MESS NO.1
        Founding Member
        OHIO
        Mason Lodge #678, PM
        Need Rules?

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        • #5
          Re: Close-Up Image - Unidentified Officers and Men

          Bumping this one to see if anyone has any insight on who it might be.
          ERIC TIPTON
          Former AC Owner

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          • #6
            Re: Close-Up Image - Unidentified Officers and Men

            The quasi-zouave jackets that are shown are typical of those issued to many reenlisting veteran regiments in the Department of the Gulf. They came in a variety of patterns with different styles of trefoil trim configurations, or none at all. Some had false vests of either sky are dark blue; some didn't. Probably the most famous unit to receive these was the 11th Indiana Volunteers, but they also went to other Indiana units as well, and some from Iowa too. Anyway, below are several illustrations depicting this interesting jacket. Based on the "odds" I'd venture these are Indiana soldiers. Anyone's guess, however.
            Attached Files
            Bob Williams
            26th North Carolina Troops
            Blogsite: http://26nc.org/blog/

            As [one of our cavalry] passed by, the general halted him and inquired "what part of the army he belonged to." "I don't belong to the army, I belong to the cavalry." "That's a fact," says [the general], "you can pass on." Silas Grisamore, 18th Louisiana

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            • #7
              Re: Close-Up Image - Unidentified Officers and Men

              Lots of really neat details here. Fairly wide variety of caps, kepis, hats. Note the fitted look of the frocks on the officers. Commercial sacks, (one with what looks like velvet facings!) and that each Orderly Sergeant's diamond is different. Different types of shoulder straps and sword belts. Some young looking Staff Officers.

              Great cross section of a unit and shows the wide variety of uniformity available and adopted. Goes to show Federal uniformity need not be drab or "cookie cutter" and some variety is acceptable, and maybe even necessary. Granted, an issue appearance is always safe vice the exception, but this photo and others in this folder show a broad amount of exceptions, I think.
              Last edited by Ambrose Bierce; 04-03-2014, 07:20 AM.
              Ivan Ingraham
              AC Moderator

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              • #8
                Re: Close-Up Image - Unidentified Officers and Men

                Eyeglasses on the officer laying on his belly. Definitely not just reading glasses.
                Paul McKee

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                • #9
                  Re: Close-Up Image - Unidentified Officers and Men

                  Those are some awesome pictures! Could they be Corcoran's Legion?
                  Stephen Lunsford

                  Possum Skinners Mess/Tick Creek Troublemakers

                  150th Pickett's Mill May 2014-5th Kentucky
                  150th Franklin (Carnton Plantation) November 2014-20th Tennessee
                  150th Bentonville, March 2015-10th Iowa
                  Pea Ridge Adjunct, September 2015-24th Missouri
                  Blakeley Living History, April 2016-1st/3rd Missouri CS
                  Picket Post, May 2016, Company C, 9th Tennessee "Creek Bank Mess"
                  Lookout Mountain Living History, June 2017, 31st Iowa "Root Hog or Die"
                  154th Chickamauga Living History, September 2017, Co. C, 23rd Tennessee
                  Battle of Wauhatchie (Aka "Wet-hatchie"), Tennessee, October 27-28, 2017, 78th New York "12th Corps!!!"

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                  • #10
                    Re: Close-Up Image - Unidentified Officers and Men

                    Lack of visible corp badges suggests earlier than 1863. But these men do have a "veteran" look. The tents in the background look strangely similar to ones pictured in the series done near Culpeper/Cedar Mountain in August 1862. Possibly members of Banks' Corp.
                    T. N. Harrington
                    Traveling Photographic Artist
                    Daguerreotypes and Wet-plate Collodion Photographs
                    Winchester, Virginia

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