William's Cleaner Round Paper

[Pvt. McNutt]

Hello all,

I was just curious if anyone had found a good source for blue paper for making william's cleaner cartridges. So far I have found good sources for tan-brown paper for regular rounds, as well as green paper for cap tubes, but the blue william's round papaer still evades me.

Thank you for your time,

[weed]

Re: William's Cleaner Round Paper

You can use a dark red paper also. Years ago, we X-rayed my original unopened pack of St. Louis Arsenal Cartridges and it contained 3 Williams cleaner rounds. I use to have a source for the correct paper, but it's been years that I just forgot.

[Horace]

Re: William's Cleaner Round Paper

There's a guy who's first name means 'a small cut', and who's last name rhymes with 'Tekela' who sells 'em at his site. He sells them as part of a '40 round package', but you can buy just the cleaner round paper too. We're not allowed to say his name here...

[Silas]

Re: William's Cleaner Round Paper

A long time ago, said individual threatened the scourge known as lawyers upon this site if he name was mentioned here ever again. It's such a silly thing now that it's almost a marketing ploy. He's the man whose name cannot be mentioned but everyone knows who he is. Although not originally intended as a marketing trick, it sure has become one. Use his name all you want on Szabo's forum.

- Silas Tackitt

[GreencoatCross]

Re: William's Cleaner Round Paper

Instead of going to "That Guy" you could probably just hunt up a local paper supply shop or even an online source for what you need. Years ago when I still lived in Cincinnati, I used a local shop for all of my colored papers, screen printing inks, et cetera. A good shop will carry literally hundreds of colors of paper in all weights and composition.

Locally-owned print shops might turn up something good as well. My business partner Dan uses a local shop that has a great selection of colored paper in stock and available to purchase by the sheet. Heck, they might even give you a few for free.

[PetePaolillo]

Re: William's Cleaner Round Paper

At first the standard package of 10 arsenal-issued cartridges contained eleven percussion caps in a separate tube and one Williams patent cartridge out of the 10 cartridges. Later this amount was increased to three of the 10 and then to six by August of 1864. Originally Soldiers were instructed to use the special bullets as every tenth round fired.
Williams cartridges were made up in the same fashion as the standard .58 caliber cartridge with 60 grains of black powder, but no official documentation has ever been located indicating that the cartridges should be made up in a colored cartridge paper. Surviving examples show blue, red, and a white / off white cartridge paper used along with the standard "buff" tan cartridge paper in their production.

Dean S. Thomas book "Round Ball to Rim Fire -Part 1" chapter 13 pages 211-243 on Civil War Small Arms ammunition

[Edwin Carl Erwin]

Re: William's Cleaner Round Paper

I was just curious if anyone had found a good source for blue paper for making william's cleaner cartridges. So far I have found good sources for tan-brown paper for regular rounds, as well as green paper for cap tubes, but the blue william's round papaer still evades me.

Bridger,
Check your local art supply stores, which should have a vast selection of paper to select the proper match from. Here are a few art supply store in the LA area:
Blue Rooster Art Supplies
www.blueroosterartsupplies.com - (323) 661-9471

Pearl Art & Craft Supplies Inc
www.pearlpaint.com - (310) 854-4900

Utrecht Art Supply
www.utrecht.com - (310) 478-5775

Blick Art Materials
www.dickblick.com - (310) 479-1416

Raw Materials LA
rawmaterialsla.com - (213) 627-7223

La Luz De Jesus Gallery
www.laluzdejesus.com - (323) 666-7667

Top's Arts Supplies
www.topsartsupplies.com - (213) 382-8229

Regards,

[Pvt. McNutt]

Re: William's Cleaner Round Paper

Thank you everyone, I appreciate the help. I didn't know if there was a certain paper that people had found to work well like the 3m masking paper for regular rounds for instance.

[Cyclesmith]

Re: William's Cleaner Round Paper

Yeah if you find a good online source let me know.. I've been looking myself....

[6Pdr]

Re: William's Cleaner Round Paper

Go to Office Depot. Buy blue ink in a roll on type bottle. Ink your own paper. Works great.

[41strifleman]

Re: William's Cleaner Round Paper

If you have one in your area check out a teachers supply store. The one in our area caters to the home schoolers. They usually have a pretty good selection of different colored papers for art projects. I have found paper for not only for Williams cleaners rounds but also for .69 colored wrappers.
Bob Gregory
79th NY
"When I started out the only way to get paper was to have a wasp chew it for you"