Frock coat pattern?

[Hank Trent]

Re: Frock coat pattern?

Alpaca is woven from the fleece of the alpaca, just like wool is woven from the fleece of sheep. It had a very fine, hard finish, same as you can get with wool today if you want. I just bought some black wool twill sold as "Italian superfine" with the same general kind of smooth finish, though of course it's wool and not alpaca.

The original examples I've seen have generally faded to two different colors, greenish black in the weft and brown in the warp (from memory--I might have got those reversed). It's possible they were actually two different colors to begin with, but I'm betting the green was at least black. So I'm wondering if the original fabric was an alpaca weft, woven in a twill with the float to put most of the alpaca on the surface, and some other warp. Anyone know?

Hank Trent
hanktrent@voyager.net

[pvt_dirty]

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hope this helps
your pard
Tyler Goodrich
Soon to be rowdy pard
once back from Iraq

[hireddutchcutthroat]

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I'm like you. I've seen it mentioned several times, and find it hard to think it is wool, but it may be. The 2 artillery frocks I've looked at, had linings that LOOKED like black linen, but seeing how nothing else from that era is what it appears to be today, it probably ain't.

Frocks are definately not for beginers, but they aren't as hard as some of the other things I've sewn. But on that point I digress, one of my pards sews very well and won't even attempt trowsers, even though I find them quite easy to sew.

Clark

What you described is black alpaca. It often has a greenish cast today. To my knowledge there is only one correct pattern in entire country and it is closely guarded by three to four people. It was drafted from a dissasembled original back when there were originals aplenty to do this to.

[Clark Badgett]

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Oh that I know Robert, that I know. Ain't nothing like having a little corner on the market. But I got a secret I ain't tellin yet. :D

[hireddutchcutthroat]

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Oh that I know Robert, that I know. Ain't nothing like having a little corner on the market. But I got a secret I ain't tellin yet. :D

Me too.

[markmason]

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Clark

To my knowledge there is only one correct pattern in entire country and it is closely guarded by three to four people. It was drafted from a dissasembled original back when there were originals aplenty to do this to.

Highly over rated.

Mark Mason
Tarwater Mess

[hireddutchcutthroat]

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Highly over rated.

Mark Mason
Tarwater Mess

Mark
Im interested to hear your reasons as to why you feel this. Feel free to contact me off forum. keepnhoakalive@yahoo.com