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    Gang - need some links to what you consider to be the most well written, sane and safe sets of safety rules for reenacting (infantry). Out here we are governed by a set of rules and procedures borrowed from another state (because that is where many of the events take place) that are "a little different." Things like a minimum direct (rifles level) infantry firing distance of only 30' (that is 360 inches - scary), no string on rifle/musket cartridges (projectile?), and a recent change in the other state's procedures that has them going to full cock on "aim" (rather than "ready" as per the manuals) are a few of the things that concern us.

    The artillery guys out here are real pro's, it's the infantry rules we want to update.

    This will govern events in our state and hopefully, support change in the neighboring state. If this sounds a little different, it is. Organizations in our corner of the country are geo-centric, rather than impression-centric or based on the level of authenticity, and they govern an entire state and any event held in that state.

    Never liking to reinvent the wheel, I need your help. There are so many links out there, I was hoping you smart guys could point me to some particularly good examples.

    thanks!
    Last edited by DougCooper; 01-26-2014, 02:49 PM.
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    Re: Living History Safety Regulations

    Maryland's are pretty good, modeled after the Federal gudelines but allows for tactical demonstrations



    Hope this helps!
    Robert Ambrose

    Park Ranger
    Fort Frederick State Park, Maryland
    5th Virginia Infantry Co. K

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    • #3
      Re: Living History Safety Regulations

      Good topic, gents. I will move this to the Event Hosting forum since I feel this discussion is more about the mehanics of event hosting (safety, organization, logistics, communications, etc.).
      Johnny Lloyd
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      • #4
        Re: Living History Safety Regulations

        Thanks guys. Johnny as you said these are generally for governing conduct at events. Will check out Maryland's. Because there is no war out here, the individual state reenactment organizations, rather than a state park administration or the NPS are the keepers of the regs.
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        • #5
          Re: Living History Safety Regulations

          We need to be self-policing regarding safety rules. This is a good place to start for anyone wanting to know how to host an event safely. :)
          Johnny Lloyd
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          • #6
            Re: Living History Safety Regulations

            I will say this as someone who has hosted/ran events on state and other sites you will never make everyone happy. The Maryland standards are pretty good, and easy to follow,and as a reenactor myself think they are fine, but we still get complaints, particualrry from artillery folks. Also, after being a historic weapons saftey officer it makes it harder to go to some events (streamer and farb fests mainly) as you see so much that is unsafe. Good luck!
            Robert Ambrose

            Park Ranger
            Fort Frederick State Park, Maryland
            5th Virginia Infantry Co. K

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            • #7
              Re: Living History Safety Regulations

              If you haven't looked at it, get a copy of the NPS "Manual of Instruction for the Safe Use of Reproduction Percussion Muskets In Interpretive Demonstrations". They also have one for flintlocks and another for breech loading carbines. The link I had to it is dead, but I have the PDF files I down loaded. When we host an event here at Fort Sill and the Army Safety folks ask for a reference, I use the NPS reference. No use in re-inventing the wheel.

              - - - Updated - - -

              The other advantage now that I think of it, NPS sites can't argue if you have the NPS manual. I'd be interested in how many have it or have read it just out of curiosity. Anyway, here is the percussion musket adobe file if I can do this right;19th Century Musket Drill, NPS.pdf
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              • #8
                Re: Living History Safety Regulations

                You go to forttejon.org they have the safty rules under the Civil War program section. They have been in use sense the 1980's with out any on major incidences.
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                • #9
                  Re: Living History Safety Regulations

                  Thanks gentlemen, this is good stuff. Have operated under the NPS guidelines many times, and Maryland, and agree its hard for someone to argue with those standards.
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                  • #10
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                    But they do, Doug. They do.
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