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  • Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

    Hello Y'all,
    Here are the guidelines for the event. John Walsh will be posting the registration form tonight.
    -We will start Thursday night February 9th and camping off site. Vans provided by the NPS will transport you to the site.
    -Friday AM will march towards Fort Donelson recreating 10 miles of the retreat from Fort Henry.
    -Saturday and Sunday will be a static living history program.
    -We will portraying units leaving Fort Henry.
    -Horses will be allowed on the park for the weekend.
    -3 companies of infantry ,1 company of Cavalry, 2 wagons
    -Registration will open the end of September 15th
    -Cost $15 early payment to pay for food and donation to park
    This will go up the closer the date


    contact John Walsh or myself if you would like to help.
    Jerryrosssgt@hotmail.com
    john@fortdonelsonrelics.com

    Withdrawing to Fort Donelson Guidelines Feb 9-12 2012

    Coats – jean, cassimere, satinette construction with hand-sewn buttonholes at a minimum.
    1. Frock coats
    2.Civilian Sack Coats

    3.Commutation shell jackets.
    Black trimmed optional

    Overcoats
    1.Civilian
    2.Weller style
    3.Carpets
    4. Bear or Buffalo robes

    Pants– jean, cassimere, satinette construction with hand-sewn buttonholes at a minimum.
    1. Military pattern
    2. Civilian pattern
    NO federal sky blue trousers will be allowed.

    Wide black stripes optional

    Shoes
    1. Civilian pattern shoes and boots
    2. Confederate Issue Shoes
    3. Infantry Boots
    4. Federal Brogans- Last Choice

    Headgear
    1. Civilian slouch hat
    2. CS kepi black trimmed optional

    Shirts
    Civilian pattern shirt made of woven material hand sewn buttonholes


    Drawers – Canton flannel or cotton muslin / osnaburg of military or civilian pattern

    Socks - Woven wool or cotton socks with natural colors.

    NO elastic or rag wool socks-
    Accouterments

    Cartridge Boxes
    1. CS issue boxes – preferably something early war western theater – Magee and George, Baton Rouge Arsenal
    2. English Import Cartridge Box
    3. US Issue Cartridge Box

    Cap pouches
    1. CS issue cap pouches – same as cartridge boxes
    2. English Import Cap Box
    3. US Cap Box

    Belt
    1. Fork Tongue
    2. Spoon and wreath
    3. English Import Belts

    4. Roller buckle

    No Federal Belts allowed.

    Bayonet scabbards
    1. CS issue
    2. English Import Scabbard
    3. Federal scabbards- strongly discouraged, but if you lack a CS scabbard these will be accepted.

    Haversacks

    Documented Confederate issue haversack of painted or unpainted cloth.
    No federal haversacks.

    Canteen
    1. CS tin drum
    2. wooden drum canteen

    Knapsacks
    1. Mexican war
    2. CS single bag including English Import Knapsacks
    3. Militia hard packs
    4. BEDROLLS are also allowed. NO Federal Bags,.

    Long arms
    1. 1853 Enfield
    2. 1842 Springfield
    4. 1855 Springfield, 1816/22 conversions
    5. Flintlocks to Mississippi Rifles 6. Full length shotguns

    Blankets
    1. Civilian coverlets or 2-piece blankets
    2. CS issue blankets


    Tents and flys are highly encouraged because of threat of severe weather.
    Wagons are being used to transport from site to site. Canvas and poles will need to be marked to keep together.

    Eyewear
    1. Period frames only.
    2. NO modern eyewear of ANY kind! (Contacts excluded)
    Jerry Ross
    Withdraw to Fort Donelson Feb 2012



    Just a sinner trying to change

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    Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

    Here you go - Registration is now open - print off the form and mail it in with the payment.

    Registration Link; http://www.fortdonelsonrelics.com/im...20Donelson.pdf

    Disclaimers for this event:

    1. No Refunds - these funds are going towards rations and park donation
    2. You will not have access to a car or most likely cell service - this will be campaigning.
    3. If you have a medical issue that would cause you to second guess this event - don't do it. However, if you want to participate, feel free to register, skip the march and come and play Saturday through Sunday.
    4. We will not be disclosing the location of the Thursday night camp at LBL to keep traffic out of that area.

    Overall Schedule:

    Thursday, Feb 9th - Sign in at Fort Donelson National Battlefield Visitors Center - 3pm - 9pm
    - Cars will be left at Fort Donelson Parking areas
    - Last Shuttle to Fort Henry Area Leaves at 9:30PM

    Friday, Feb 10th - Sign in at Fort Donelson National Battlefield Visitors Center - 7am - 8:30am
    - Last Shuttle to Fort Henry Area Leaves at 9:00AM
    - Break Camp - Load Gear Into Wagons
    - Column will leave Fort Henry Area at approx 9:45AM
    - March to Friday Night Camp Area - Wagons Will Meet - Set Up Camp
    - Marching Distance Approximagey 5-6miles

    Saturday, Feb 11th
    - AM Camp Will Break - Load Gear Into Wagons
    - Column Marches Out to Fort Donelson to Trace
    - From the Trace we will pick up a police escort to Hwy 79 to Fort Donelson in view of the public
    - Column arrives at Fort Donelson and sets up Camp
    - We will do two firing demonstrations in the afternoon
    - 4:00 Event officially over for those who want to leave

    Sunday, Feb 12th
    - For those that are left -
    - Two Firing Demonstrations 1 in AM - 1 in PM
    - Break Camp at 3pm

    John Walsh
    Last edited by fortdonelsonrelics; 09-14-2011, 10:32 PM. Reason: No Name
    John Walsh


    "Is a gentleman with a brostache invited to this party?''

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    • #3
      Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

      For your impressions, our sources indicate these were the units that evacuated Fort Henry on or around Feb 6-7th, 1862 to leave for Fort Donelson.

      10th Tennessee
      15th Arkansas
      48th Tennessee
      51st Tennessee (Not full battalion strength)
      4th Mississippi
      26th Alabama
      27th Alabama

      Also - as noted in an earlier post - weather can change within hours in this area in February, as a result, please plan accordingly.

      John Walsh
      John Walsh


      "Is a gentleman with a brostache invited to this party?''

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      • #4
        Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

        I am recruiting for, and will the commander of a Company representing the 48th Tennessee. Most of you know me as having worked to present the Backwaters 1865 event there at the LBL site. I am familiar with the terrain some what, and look forward to this 150th event for the Fort Donelson National Battlefield.
        Brian Hicks
        Widows' Sons Mess

        Known lately to associate with the WIG and the Armory Guards

        "He's a good enough fellow... but I fear he may be another Alcibiades."

        “Every man ever got a statue made of him was one kinda sumbitch or another. It ain’t about you. It’s about what THEY need.”CAPTAIN MALCOLM REYNOLDS

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        • #5
          Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

          Gents -

          1 Company of Infantry - Commanded By Brian Hicks - 48th Tennessee

          2 Company of Infantry - Awaiting Confirmation -

          3 Company of Infantry - Open

          1 Company of Cavalry - Ethan Harrington - Gantt's 9th Tennessee Cavalry

          Contact us directly if you are interested in commanding the last company.

          For registering, simply put the commanders name on the line of the registration form when you send it in. Once we secure the other two companies command - we will post.

          John Walsh
          John Walsh


          "Is a gentleman with a brostache invited to this party?''

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          • #6
            Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

            In the listing on the guidelines: is the number indicative of preference? In other words, is #1 more desirable than #2 or #3? Or is it just a general list?
            Warren Dickinson


            Currently a History Hippy at South Union Shaker Village
            Member of the original Pickett's Mill Interpretive Volunteer Staff & Co. D, 17th Ky Vol. Inf
            Former Mudsill
            Co-Creator of the States Rights Guard in '92

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            • #7
              Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

              Originally posted by dixieflyer View Post
              In the listing on the guidelines: is the number indicative of preference? In other words, is #1 more desirable than #2 or #3? Or is it just a general list?
              The guidlines are general reference.

              For further research on the historical context - here are some good references:

              "Where the South Lost The War" Kendall Gott - Recently re-published in paperback - or here: http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=GOZ-OWNjSHUC

              "The Battle of Fort Donelson: No Terms But Unconditional Surrender" By James R. Knight - or here: http://books.google.com/books?id=Dau...page&q&f=false

              Forts Henry and Donelson: The Key to the Confederate Heartland By Benjamin Franklin Cooling - or here: http://books.google.com/books?id=EEG...page&q&f=false

              John Walsh
              John Walsh


              "Is a gentleman with a brostache invited to this party?''

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              • #8
                Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

                Mr. Walsh - form printed and sent in today.
                Mr. Hicks - my ancestor was in the 49th, so I will be proud to serve with you in the 48th.
                Robert Orrand
                N. B. Forrest Camp 215, SCV
                Civilian Adjunct - Mayor of Dover, Purdy, Raymond, Layette, and more to come... and oh yeah Gettysburg
                4thTN CSA - Co A - Shelby Greys

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                • #9
                  Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

                  Thanks John! I more or less have 90% of my impression lined out for this, and seeing the M1816/1822 at #4 made me think it was not a preferred arm. I was looking forward to carrying this weapon at Donelson since I won't get to use it at the Shiloh or Perryville events. My only obstacle right now is a knapsack and overcoat. What to do, what to do. :)
                  Warren Dickinson


                  Currently a History Hippy at South Union Shaker Village
                  Member of the original Pickett's Mill Interpretive Volunteer Staff & Co. D, 17th Ky Vol. Inf
                  Former Mudsill
                  Co-Creator of the States Rights Guard in '92

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                    Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

                    I just printed the form, and it will go out in the next few days. I look forward to representing Arkansas.
                    Marvin Boyce

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                    • #11
                      Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

                      Originally posted by desotobob View Post
                      Mr. Walsh - form printed and sent in today.
                      Mr. Hicks - my ancestor was in the 49th, so I will be proud to serve with you in the 48th.
                      Sir, you are always welcome. We'll Jerry Hughes and his son in the ranks with us. His GGGGrandafather was in the 48thm, and was surrendered at Donelson.
                      Brian Hicks
                      Widows' Sons Mess

                      Known lately to associate with the WIG and the Armory Guards

                      "He's a good enough fellow... but I fear he may be another Alcibiades."

                      “Every man ever got a statue made of him was one kinda sumbitch or another. It ain’t about you. It’s about what THEY need.”CAPTAIN MALCOLM REYNOLDS

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                      • #12
                        Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

                        This is form research Jerry Hughes has been doing:

                        'I'm going through microfilm for the Military Board and the Adjutant General records to see if I can any specifics on the types of weapons in the Tennessee arsenals in the fall of 1861. I did find some telegraphs to New Orleans inquiring about purchasing 5000 to 6000 percussion hammers for 69 calibre and suitable cones. I also found where they purchased 2000 mess kits for $21, but no description of them. I'll let you know if I find anything."

                        Which would indicate that there were perhaps 5-6000 Model 16/22s in Tn. Arsenals that were likely designated (or in the process) to be converted to percussion use during the Fall of 1861. With such information, (and lacking any other guidance at this time) I'd like to see .69's as the weapon of choice for the 48th Tn.
                        Brian Hicks
                        Widows' Sons Mess

                        Known lately to associate with the WIG and the Armory Guards

                        "He's a good enough fellow... but I fear he may be another Alcibiades."

                        “Every man ever got a statue made of him was one kinda sumbitch or another. It ain’t about you. It’s about what THEY need.”CAPTAIN MALCOLM REYNOLDS

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                        • #13
                          Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

                          Originally posted by BrianHicks View Post
                          With such information, (and lacking any other guidance at this time) I'd like to see .69's as the weapon of choice for the 48th Tn.
                          I'm all over that, and have a .69 CS box to go with it. I may pick up another Morrow & sons .69 box though. I cannot imagine a more appropriate box for Donelson than a Nashville-produced box. Wish I still had the one a friend of mine made me years ago.
                          Warren Dickinson


                          Currently a History Hippy at South Union Shaker Village
                          Member of the original Pickett's Mill Interpretive Volunteer Staff & Co. D, 17th Ky Vol. Inf
                          Former Mudsill
                          Co-Creator of the States Rights Guard in '92

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                          • #14
                            Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

                            Col. Heiman wrote in his Fort Henry report, "With the exception of the Tenth Tennessee and the Fourth Mississippi these were all new troops , who had just entered the service. They were not drilled, were badly equipped, and very indifferently armed with shot-guns and Tennesee rifles. " He called the 48th Tennessee and the 51st Tennessee "skeleton regiments, containing together not more than 400 men."

                            Years ago, while looking at the Records of the State of Tennessee Military & Financial Board, I saw a list of equipment which was delivered to Capt. Morgan at Fort Henry on July 4, 1861. I believe this to be Co. C, 10th Tennessee commanded by Captain St. Clair M. Morgan. The were issued 80 flintlocks, 80 cartridge boxes, 80 brush and picks, 160 gun flints, 80 gun slings, 80 waist belts, 8 spring vises, 8 ball screws, 4 saber belts, 84 knapsacks. And remember this is one of the better equipped units.

                            Dan Stewart

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                            • #15
                              Re: Withdrawing to Fort Donelson-Feb 9-12, 2012

                              Very nice - only up for 2 days and I'm already getting registration forms in the mail !! Momentum is building - thanks to everyone who is supporting this event!

                              John Walsh
                              John Walsh


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