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    Ohio Executive Documents

    Annual Report of the Quartermaster General to the Governor of the State of Ohio for the year 1862. Columbus, Richard Nevins, State Printer, 1863

    Report of the Superintendent of Arsenal

    Total arms issued to Ohio troops.

    The following tables exhibit the total number of arms issued to Ohio volunteers, now in service, who have received arms through this department:

    Artillery

    First Regiment, Col. Jas. Barnett, consisting of twelve batteries-
    46 6 pounder bronze field guns, rifled, 3.80 inch.
    16 6 pounder bronze field guns, smoothbore.
    2 12 pounder bronze howitzers.
    8 6 pounder steel rifle guns, "Waird's."
    4 12 pounder steel rifle guns "Waird's."

    1st Independent Battery, Capt McMullen-
    2 6 pounder bronze field guns, smooth.
    4 6 pounder bronze field guns, rifled.

    2d Independent Battery, Capt. Carlin-
    4 6 pounder bronze field guns, rifled.

    3d Independent Battery, Capt. Williams-
    2 6 pounder bronze field guns, smooth.
    4 6 pounder bronze field guns, rifled.

    4th independent Battery, Capt. Hoffman-
    Armed elsewhere.

    5th Independent Battery, Capt. Hickenlooper-
    2 6 pounder bronze field , smooth.
    4 6 pounder bronze field guns, rifled.

    6th Independent Battery, Capt. Bradley-
    Armed elsewhere.

    7th Independent Battery, Capt. Burnap-
    2 6 pounder bronze field guns, smooth.
    4 6 pounder bronze field guns, rifled.

    8th Independent Battery, Capt. Markgraff-
    Armed elsewhere.

    9th Independent Battery, Capt. Whetmore-
    Armed by United States direct.

    10th Independent Battery, Capt. White-
    2 6 pounder bronze field guns, smooth
    4 6 pounder bronze field guns, rifled.

    11th Independent Battery, Capt. Constable, now Sands-
    Armed elsewhere.

    12th Independent Battery, Capt. Johnson-
    4 6 pounder steel rifled guns, "Wiard's."
    2 12 pounder steel rifled guns, "Wiard's."

    13th Independent Battery, Capt. Myers-
    2 6 pounder bronze field guns, smooth.
    4 6 pounder bronze field guns, rifled.

    14th Independent Battery, Capt. Burrows-
    4 6 pounder steel rifled guns, "Wiard's."
    2 12 pounder steel rifled guns, "Wiard's."
    Subequently issued to this battery-
    2 12 pounder bronze field guns-model, 1857.
    4 3 inch wrought iron guns, rifled.

    15th Independent Battery, Capt. Spear-
    Armed elsewhere.

    16th Independent Battery, Capt. Mitchell-
    2 6 pounder bronze field guns, smooth.
    4 6 pounder bronze field guns, rifled.

    17th Independent Battery, Capt. Blount-
    6 6 pounder bronze field guns, rifled.

    18th Independent Battery, Capt. Aleshire-
    6 3 inch wrought iron guns, rifled.

    19th Independent Battery, Capt. Shields-
    6 12 pounder bronze field guns, pat., 1857.

    20th Independent Battery, Capt. Smithnight-
    2 12 pounder bronze field guns, pat., 1857.
    4 3 inch wrought iron guns, rifled.

    Cavalry

    1st Regiment-
    658 Sharp's carbines.
    1,090 Colt's pistols.
    93 Remington pistols.
    1,210 light Cavalry sabres.

    2nd Regiment-
    100 Joslyn carbines.
    700 Starr's pistols.
    500 Remington pistols.
    1,200 light Cavalry sabres.

    3rd Regiment-
    100 Joslyn's carbines.
    650 Remington's pistols.
    50 Whitney's pistols.
    1,200 sabres.

    4th Regiment-
    100 Joslyn carbine
    (Received remainder of its armament direct from United States.)

    5th Regiment-
    120 Sharp's carbines
    675 Joslyn's pistols.
    1,200 light Cavalry sabres.
    (This regiment has lately received a full supply of Burnside's carbines direct from the United States.)

    6th Regiment-
    250 Joslyn's carbines.
    71 Colt's pistols
    324 Joslyn's pistols.
    760 light Cavalry sabres.

    7th Regiment-
    400 Gallager's carbines.
    1000 Remington's pistols.
    200 Whitney's pistols.
    1,200 light Cavalry sabres.

    1st Squadron-
    186 Sharp's carbines.
    184 Remington's pistols.
    164 light Cavalry sabres.

    2d Independent Battalion-
    100 Gallager's carbines
    300 remington pistols
    400 light Cavalry sabres

    Will continue with the OVM and OVI...

    Regards,

    John

    John Sarver
    Cin.O.
    John Sarver

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    Re: Arming Ohio Part I

    John,
    I am surprised, no Gwyn & Campbells/Cosmopolitians, also know as the Ohio gun.
    Steve Sullivan
    46th Illinois
    Co. Mil. Hist.

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    • #3
      Re: Arming Ohio Part I

      Hi Steve,

      I'm kind of surprised as well. Always thought the grapevines were neat, although they have my vote as plug ugliest carbine of the war.

      Folks I'm missing the 1st thru 26th Regiments, certainly have to include them, have to go get another copy and will do so over the weekend.

      To my fellow Buckeyes.

      I've been very blessed at stumbling across a few other things that are Ohio related, and might be of interest to our members statewide. Have two really neat period newspaper articles on the uniforms of the 1st and 2nd OVM, and how the stuff was purchased when they were sent east. Would anybody like to have some of that for ref., sort of an Ohio stuff thread? Could we do something like that Curt if folks are interested?

      Anyway,

      Regards,

      John
      John Sarver
      Cin. O.
      John Sarver

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      • #4
        Re: Arming Ohio Part I

        Anything there on the 55th Ohio Volunteer Infantry?

        Jeff Lawson
        Jeff Lawson
        2nd Vermont, Co. E

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        • #5
          Re: Arming Ohio Part I

          Hallo Kameraden!

          Thanks, Herr John, for working on this!

          And, Kameraden, these listings will be covering all of the Ohio regiments, yes.

          Curt-Heinrich Schmidt
          Curt Schmidt
          In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

          -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
          -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
          -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
          -Vastly Ignorant
          -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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          • #6
            Re: Arming Ohio Part I

            The Ohio Executive Documents are a great source of information on Ohio units, but they are not always complete. The list is very extensive and will take John awhile to post. If John doesn't mind, I'll jump in and help by posting info on some of the higher number regiments:

            50th OVI - No record
            51st OVI - 703 US rifle muskets, .69 cal., 200 Enfield rifle muskets.
            52nd OVI - 940 Springfield rifle muskets
            53rd OVI - 888 Austrian rifle muskets, .54 cal.
            54th OVI - 600 Pondir muskets, .69 cal.
            55th OVI - 586 Pondir rifle muskets, cal 69, 380 Enfield rifle muskets.
            56th OVI - 700 Saxony rifle muskets, 200 Enfield rifle muskets.
            57th OVI - 840 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal., 200 Enfield rifle muskets.
            58th OVI - 551 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal, 429 Enfield rifle muskets.
            59th OVI - 200 Enfield rifle muskets, Remainder of issue to this regiment made in the field.
            60th OVI - No record
            61st OVI - 771 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal
            62nd OVI - 780 Pondir's rifle musket, 69 cal, 200 Enfield rifle musket.
            63rd OVI - 864 Austrian rifle musket, 54 cal.
            64th OVI - Armed by War Department direct
            65th OVI - Armed by War Department direct
            66th OVI - 704 Pondir's rifle musket, 69 cal
            67th OVI - 620 Prussian smoothbore muskets, 360 Enfield rifle muskets. Subsequent issue of 828 Saxony rifle muskets, 69 cal.
            68th OVI - 980 Enfield rifle muskets
            69th OVI - 980 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
            70th OVI - 264 Austrian rifle muskets, remainder of issue to this regiment made in the field.
            71st OVI - 850 French rifle muskets, 70 cal., Subsequent issue of 250 French rifle muskets, 70 cal.
            72nd OVI - 780 Enfield rifle muskets.
            73rd OVI - 980 Enfield rifle muskets.
            74th OVI - 780 Prussian rifle muskets, 69 cal., 200 Enfield rifle muskets.
            75th OVI - 900 Enfield rifle muskets.
            76th OVI - 980 French rifle muskets, 69 cal. Subsequent issue of 800 Springfield rifle muskets.
            77th OVI - Armed in the field
            78th OVI - 900 Enfield rifle muskets
            79th OVI - 720 Springfield rifle muskets
            80th OVI - 900 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
            81st OVI - 600 Enfield rifle muskets
            82nd OVI - 980 Enfield rifle muskets
            83rd OVI - 980 Enfield rifle muskets
            84th OVI - 88th OVI - No record
            89th OVI - 940 Austrian rifle muskets, 58 cal.
            90th OVI - 940 Enfield rifle muskets.
            91st OVI - 950 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal
            92nd OVI - 950 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
            93rd OVI - 960 Springfield rifle muskets.
            94th OVI - 940 Enfield rifle muskets.
            95th OVI - 960 Springfield rifle muskets. Subsequent issue of 800 Enfield rifle muskets.
            96th OVI - 940 Austrian rifle muskets, 58 cal.
            97th OVI - 940 Enfield rifle muskets.
            98th OVI - 920 Springfield rifle muskets.
            99th OVI - 940 Enfield rifle muskets.
            100th OVI - 950 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal. Subsequent issue of 920 Enfield rifle muskets.
            101st OVI - 940 Austrian rifle muskets, 58 cal. Subsequent issue of 900 Springfield rifle muskets
            102nd OVI - 940 Austrian rifle muskets, 58 cal. Subsequent issue of 900 Springfield rifle muskets.
            103rd OVI - 940 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal. Subsequent issue of 900 Enfield rifle muskets.
            104th OVI - 940 Austrian rifle muskets, 58 cal. Subsequent issue of 900 Enfield rifle muskets.
            105th OVI - 960 Springfield rifle musket. Subsequent issue of 35 Springfield rifle muskets.

            I'll add the rest later on this evening, but here are a couple of additional comments on this list. This list is more accurate than that in Todd's Equipage book. More importantly, this is a good start on researching the weapons of an Ohio regiment. The 1863 Report adds in further detail on subsequent issues, particularly for those regiments armed with 2nd calss arms. Also, it's good to bounce this data off the Quarterly Summary of Ordnance and Ordnance Stores in the National Archives.

            Finally, in terms of the Gwyn and Campbell carbines issued to Ohio troops, most, if not all, went to Illinois cavalry regiments. There were a few Cosmopolitan rifles issued to local volunteer regiments shortly before the war on a test basis, but they failed miserably. I think there's an article in one of the Cincinatti papers about it. I'd recommend Tom Rentschlor's book on the Gwyn and Campbell/Union/Grapevine/Gross/Union/Ohio carbines for more information.
            James Brenner

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            • #7
              Re: Arming Ohio Part I

              Thanks for helping, Herr Jim!

              Curt-Heinrich Schmidt
              Thankful For Slow Nights At the Pentagon Mess
              ;-)
              Curt Schmidt
              In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

              -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
              -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
              -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
              -Vastly Ignorant
              -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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              • #8
                Re: Arming Ohio Part I

                You're welcome, Herr Curt. How's the frau?

                As Curt pointed out, it's a slow night in the Pentagon Mess (not too much of a pun intended), so here's the rest of the information for the 106th to 126th OVI regiments:

                106th OVI - Armed at Camp Dennison with Austrian rifle muskets, 58 cal.
                107th OVI - 959 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
                108th OVI - Armed at Camp Dennison with Austrian rifle muskets, 58 cal.
                109th OVI - No record.
                110th OVI - 950 French rifle muskets, 71 cal. Subsequent issue of 900 Springfield rifle muskets.
                111th OVI - 950 Springfield rifle muskets.
                112th OVI - No record
                113th OVI - 840 Enfield rifle muskets
                114th OVI - 950 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal. Subsequent issue of 200 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
                115th OVI - 950 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
                116th OVI - 950 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
                117th OVI - 920 French rifle muskets, 69 cal.
                118th OVI - 875 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
                119th OVI - No record
                120th OVI - 950 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
                121st OVI - 900 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
                122nd OVI - 900 French rifle muskets, 71 cal. Subsequent issue of 900 Enfield rifle muskets.
                123rd OVI - 980 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
                124th OVI - 700 Springfield rifle muskets.
                125th OVI - 600 Springfield rifle muskets.
                126th OVI - 900 Austrian rifle muskets, 54 cal.
                Hoffman's Battalion - 300 U.S. percussion muskets.
                Governor's Guards - 288 Prussian smoothbore muskets.
                Dennison Guards - 95 Prussian smoothbore muskets
                Trumbull Guards - 98 U.S. percussion muskets.
                James Brenner

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                • #9
                  Re: Arming Ohio Part I

                  James,
                  Could you be so kind as to tell me what the 127th (5th USCT) and the 27th USCT were issued? I have been told it was the 63' springfields but want it from a reliable source, i.e. you or Comrade Sarver. It would be most appreciated

                  Andrew Jarvi
                  Capt. 5th USCT
                  Respectfully yours,
                  Andrew Jarvi
                  [URL="http://darbycreekboys.webs.com/index.html"]Darby Creek Boys[/URL]

                  Kamfet brav fur Freiheit und Recht

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                  • #10
                    Re: Arming Ohio Part I

                    Unfortunately, that unit isn't listed in the Executive Documents. I suspect that the reason is because the USG armed them rather than the state. Have you read, Eagles on their Buttons? That's a recent regimental history on the 127thOVI/5 USCT. It may state what they were issued. Just off the cuff, though, considering when the unit was raised, I'd think that the M1863 would be a little late and the regiment would more likely be issued some type of M1861. The next time I'm at the Archives, I'll check the Summary of Ordnance Stores. The Summaries don't go into specifics, though, on what exact type of Springfields a unit had.
                    James Brenner

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                    • #11
                      Re: Arming Ohio Part I

                      I appreciate the effort sir, I have the book and have been unable to locate any reference in the book. Thus the search goes on....

                      Many Thanks
                      Andrew Jarvi
                      5th USCT

                      When were the 63's issued? the regiment began forming in June, but officially in August of 63 but didn't leave Camp Delaware til November of 63 when they were sent to Norfolk.
                      Respectfully yours,
                      Andrew Jarvi
                      [URL="http://darbycreekboys.webs.com/index.html"]Darby Creek Boys[/URL]

                      Kamfet brav fur Freiheit und Recht

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                      • #12
                        Re: Arming Ohio Part I

                        John and James,

                        This is very interesting. May I please put in a request for anything about the 21st, Companies A and F (7 GGG Uncles), 49th, Company K (2 cousins), and 178th, Company G (GG Grandfather) OVI?

                        Thank you,

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                        • #13
                          Re: Arming Ohio Part I

                          Kathy and Andrew,

                          The Executive Documents don't break a regiment's weapons issue down by company, but here's what's listed for the 21st and 49th OVIs:

                          21st OVI - 800 U.S. rifle muskets, 69 cal., 200 Enfield rifle muskets.
                          49th OVI - 700 U.S. rifle muskets, 69 cal., 180 Enfield rifle muskets.

                          The Executive Documents list only those regiments in U.S. service and don't include the miltia or 100 days men.

                          Today seems like a good day to visit the Archives. I'll see what the Ordnance Summaries have to say on the 21st, 49th, 178th, 5th USCT, and 27th USCT.
                          James Brenner

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                          • #14
                            Re: Arming Ohio Part I

                            I would be most interested in seeing the information on the 1st and 2nd OVM Uniforms. It would be nice to see what "Ohio" related information that we could post in any given areas. (My interests being 4th,13th, 19th, 76th, 104th, 107th OVI's, Williams Battery, 18th US...and assorted other Stark County Units)

                            The information on Guns issued to William's Battery is most helpful.


                            Andrew,

                            I will check and see with the Massillon Museum, to see if there is any reference to the weapons carried by the 127th, in Robert Pinn's memoirs.
                            Todd Morris

                            Proprietor, Morris & Company Historical Clothiers

                            http://morrisclothiers.com

                            Canton Lodge #60 F&AM Canton, Ohio


                            In Memorium: Pvt. Simon Morris, Co. G, 78th OVI Died: April 14, 1863 Jefferson Barracks, Missouri
                            Joseph Rezin Thompson, 1st W.Va. Light Artillery
                            Azville W. Lindsey, Co. G, 12th W.Va. Volunteer Infantry

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                            • #15
                              Re: Arming Ohio Part I

                              Todd and James,
                              Many thanks to both of you. Hopefully when my schedule slows down I can make it down to Mansfield and out to Oberlin as they are not terribly far away from my home here in Madison. I really want to get to Oberlin though because next to the New Market Heights battlefield that is the mecca for 5th USCT re-enactors.

                              Andrew Jarvi
                              Capt. 5th USCT
                              Respectfully yours,
                              Andrew Jarvi
                              [URL="http://darbycreekboys.webs.com/index.html"]Darby Creek Boys[/URL]

                              Kamfet brav fur Freiheit und Recht

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